Hi group,

Charlotte wrote:

It was stated on this newsgroup that these lists critique CSS:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets

I have OE and these are not listed.

Will some kind person tell me how to get to them???

This reply seems designed to make me feel stupid: "This question
isn't really on topic for ahc, and is better asked in
alt.usenet.newbies."

It might have worked but I am to stupid to understand the
put-down.

David wasn't trying to make you feel stupid - he was trying to point you in
the right direction.

Your newsreader (OE in this case) has nothing to do with what newsgroups are
available. I also use OE and I can access all 3 of the ones you listed. It
is to do with your news server - generally the one used by your ISP.
David's comment about alt.usenet.newbies was to let you know that there is a
newsgroup out there specifically designed for those sorts of questions,
whereas this group is an HTML group. Since your question didn't have
anything to do with HTML, it is somewhat off-topic here. He did actually
answer your question first, though. :-) If you need to access those
particular groups, I would suggest you will need to use something like
google groups (or change ISPs).

If you are looking for a critique of your CSS, post the site here - people
will usually check out your CSS (especially if you ask them to ;-) ), and
you will get your HTML critiqued at the same time.

HTH

--

Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

It was stated on this newsgroup that these lists critique CSS:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets

I have OE and these are not listed.

Will some kind person tell me how to get to them???

This reply seems designed to make me feel stupid: "This question
isn't really on topic for ahc, and is better asked in
alt.usenet.newbies."

It might have worked but I am to stupid to understand the
put-down.

Sorry but I thought that was a 'go away kid-ya bother me', kind
of answer'. It went right over my head, as did your restatement
Mark. I gather I need to search on google for nntp servers(?).

My site is still in html and I have been lurking here trying to
learn something before I ask for a review.

The site is http://www.lovegiftz.com and it is totally messed up
because I started with html and tried to add a cgi messageboard
and also incorporate css. I have not mastered any of it and am
going to have to start from the ground up.

I know you guys & gals will not find much good stuff but I will
learn and get better.

My apology David. Thank you, and thanks Mark.

BTW, I don't think I'm stupid.

Any and all comments appreciated as I start over.

"Mark Parnell" <webmaster (AT) clarkecomputers (DOT) com.au> wrote in
message news:3f0df38e$0$23110$5a62ac22 (AT) freenews (DOT) iinet.net.au...

Charlotte wrote:
It was stated on this newsgroup that these lists critique
CSS:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets

I have OE and these are not listed.

Will some kind person tell me how to get to them???

This reply seems designed to make me feel stupid: "This
question
isn't really on topic for ahc, and is better asked in
alt.usenet.newbies."

It might have worked but I am to stupid to understand the
put-down.

David wasn't trying to make you feel stupid - he was trying to
point you in
the right direction.

Your newsreader (OE in this case) has nothing to do with what
newsgroups are
available. I also use OE and I can access all 3 of the ones
you listed. It
is to do with your news server - generally the one used by your
ISP.
David's comment about alt.usenet.newbies was to let you know
that there is a
newsgroup out there specifically designed for those sorts of
questions,
whereas this group is an HTML group. Since your question
didn't have
anything to do with HTML, it is somewhat off-topic here. He
did actually
answer your question first, though. :-) If you need to access
those
particular groups, I would suggest you will need to use
something like
google groups (or change ISPs).

If you are looking for a critique of your CSS, post the site
here - people
will usually check out your CSS (especially if you ask them to
;-) ), and
you will get your HTML critiqued at the same time.

HTH

--

Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

When Charlotte was making a web page, a :-? appears and wrote:

The site is http://www.lovegiftz.com and it is totally messed up
because I started with html and tried to add a cgi messageboard
and also incorporate css. I have not mastered any of it and am
going to have to start from the ground up.

I know you guys & gals will not find much good stuff but I will
learn and get better.

Use percentage or em for font size instead of fixed font size like 2, +2 or
16px.

Make more use of the style sheet and put it in an external file. Use a link
between the <head> like
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="foo.css">

Tables are used for tabulare data, so try to use <div> elements.

Use an unorded list e.g.
<ul>
<li><a href="link1.html">Link 1</a></li>
<li><a href="link2.html">Link 2</a></li>
<li><a href="more.html">And so on</a></li>
</ul>

Use a form mail instead of a mailto. Because there are lot of people how
don't have a proper integrated messenger with there browsers. Like people
in an internetcafe or people using e.g. Lotus Notes for messenger.

When the pages are finished validate it with http://validator.w3.org/
(html) and with http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ (style sheet).
--
Edwin van der Vaart (Geen familie van....)
http://www.semi-conductors.nl/ PHP Redirect to semi-conductor.nl
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://members.chello.nl/e.vandervaart/ Experimental site
http://host.deluxnetwork.com/~evdvaart/ Test site

picayunish wrote:

Tables are used for tabulare data, so try to use <div> elements.
Use an unorded list e.g.
ul
li><a href="link1.html">Link 1</a></li
li><a href="link2.html">Link 2</a></li
li><a href="more.html">And so on</a></li
/ul

http://www.accessibility.nl/ is a site that gives advices regarding
accessibility. They use tables and 'normal' links :-)
Nico

Wipkip wrote:

Nico Schuyt wrote:
picayunish wrote:
Tables are used for tabulare data, so try to use <div> elements.
Use an unorded list e.g.
ul
li><a href="link1.html">Link 1</a></li
li><a href="link2.html">Link 2</a></li
li><a href="more.html">And so on</a></li
/ul

http://www.accessibility.nl/ is a site that gives advices regarding
accessibility. They use tables and 'normal' links :-)

Yah but there are only 6 people can read that page.

http://www.accessibility.nl/about.html

When Nico Schuyt was making a web page, a :-? appears and wrote:

picayunish wrote:
Tables are used for tabulare data, so try to use <div> elements.

http://www.accessibility.nl/ is a site that gives advices regarding
accessibility. They use tables and 'normal' links :-)

Than they need to redesign the site and recommen to use <div> elements
instead of tables.
The best use for tables are for tabular data like a calendar or a time
table for bus, train and metro.
By using <div> elements and style sheet it will improve your own skills to
design web-sites.
--
Edwin van der Vaart (Geen familie van....)
http://www.semi-conductors.nl/ PHP Redirect to semi-conductor.nl
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://members.chello.nl/e.vandervaart/ Experimental site
http://host.deluxnetwork.com/~evdvaart/ Test site

When Wipkip was making a web page, a :-? appears and wrote:

Nico Schuyt wrote:
picayunish wrote:
Tables are used for tabulare data, so try to use <div> elements.
Use an unorded list e.g.
ul
li><a href="link1.html">Link 1</a></li
li><a href="link2.html">Link 2</a></li
li><a href="more.html">And so on</a></li
/ul

http://www.accessibility.nl/ is a site that gives advices regarding
accessibility. They use tables and 'normal' links :-)

Yah but there are only 6 people can read that page.

Which 6 people?
--
Edwin van der Vaart (Geen familie van....)
http://www.semi-conductors.nl/ PHP Redirect to semi-conductor.nl
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://members.chello.nl/e.vandervaart/ Experimental site
http://host.deluxnetwork.com/~evdvaart/ Test site

picayunish wrote:

When Nico Schuyt was making a web page, a :-? appears and wrote:
picayunish wrote:
Tables are used for tabulare data, so try to use <div> elements.

http://www.accessibility.nl/ is a site that gives advices regarding
accessibility. They use tables and 'normal' links :-)

Than they need to redesign the site and recommen to use <div> elements
instead of tables.
The best use for tables are for tabular data like a calendar or a time
table for bus, train and metro.
By using <div> elements and style sheet it will improve your own
skills to design web-sites.

No need to tell me. I happen to know the W3C Accessibility Guidelines :-)
The fact that a site specialised in accessibility uses tables for layout
however makes me wonder.

Starting Monday (I hope) you will start to see changes and
improvements.
"Nico Schuyt" <nschuyt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Wipkip wrote:
Nico Schuyt wrote:
picayunish wrote:
Tables are used for tabulare data, so try to use <div
elements.
Use an unorded list e.g.
ul
li><a href="link1.html">Link 1</a></li
li><a href="link2.html">Link 2</a></li
li><a href="more.html">And so on</a></li
/ul

http://www.accessibility.nl/ is a site that gives advices
regarding
accessibility. They use tables and 'normal' links :-)

Yah but there are only 6 people can read that page.

http://www.accessibility.nl/about.html