what do you think? review my site.... is it working in your browser

Just also wanted to thank everyone for their replies ..... MUCH
APPRECIATED. Although we do not always agree with you it is always
nice to have the experts comment on work.

On Sep 21, 12:37 am, "rf" <r... (AT) invalid (DOT) com> wrote:

"windandwaves" <nfranc... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

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Hi Folk

http://www.winsborough.co.nz/

Yet another non fluid site from you.

And why are you still specifying font size in pixels. Havn't you been told
enough times that this is simply a bad design choice?

And grey on white?

--
Richard.

Hi Richard

I changed all the font-sizes to em.... does it work for you now?

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:58:47
GMT windandwaves scribed:

Can you please have a look at:http://www.winsborough.co.nz/and tell
me what you think. Apparently it is not working in IE6, although
for it does.

The only real difference I see (on the opening page) between ie6 and
Firefox/Opera is that there's more space between the bottom pic and
the centered line below in ie.

There's a j/s error - "object expected", too.

I dont think there is a problem with the script - is there?

I didn't notice anything functionally amiss in that way, but I didn't spend
a lot of time trying to find it, either. Ie6 is usually pretty accurate in
identifying j/s errors.

--
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:07:32 GMT
dorayme scribed:

"a specialised organisational development business dedicated"?

(1) "dedicated" makes "specialised" redundant.

Bujwah.

"A specialized ornithologist dedicated to dealing with the bird-brains of
today's flighty world."

How does "specialized" at all indicate the nature of this dedication?

--
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

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<Xns99B1D867889E2nanopandaneredbojias (AT) 198 (DOT) 186.190.161>,
Neredbojias <monstersquasher (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:07:32 GMT
dorayme scribed:

"a specialised organisational development business dedicated"?

(1) "dedicated" makes "specialised" redundant.


How does "specialized" at all indicate the nature of this dedication?

When you were a baby, did you hurl that ball across the room if
you could not immediately find how to get the triangular piece
into the right hole? (Hint: it has a triangular shape)

--
dorayme

On 20 Sep, 23:08, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Withdraw that remark about the Mac! What the has this got to do
with Macs?

Macs have different gamma behaviour to PCs, so on a Mac it might be
readable.

Mac users often fail to realise this, so Mac-based designers may
suffer from a worse form of "But it looks OK on my computer" syndrome
than the strain that affects PC-based designers.

"windandwaves" <nfrancken (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Sep 21, 12:37 am, "rf" <r... (AT) invalid (DOT) com> wrote:
"windandwaves" <nfranc... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

I changed all the font-sizes to em.... does it work for you now?

So what is this?

body
{
font-size:62.5%;
}


And:

li, p, h1, h2, h3, td
{
font-size:1.3em;
}

You have abandoned the stupidly small font size and have now made it 130% of
what I like.

What is wrong with omitting font size altogther. That way I get *exactly*
what I like, not what you think I might like.

Then again given your prior responses I don't expect anything at all.

--
Richard.

"windandwaves" <nfrancken (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Hi Richard

Forgot to mention...

All of that white space and odd looking lines for so little actual content.
Apart from the staff pages you could fit *all* of the content into one page.

When I look for stuff on the web I look for content. That is, words on my
screen. I don't look for "artistic" lines all over the place.

I also look for words that adjust themselves to the size of my browser
canvas, but we have addressed this before and I know you won't do such
things.

--
Richard.

On Sep 20, 6:26 pm, windandwaves <nfranc... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Spell checker?
specialised = specialized ?
organisational = organizational ?
behaviour = behavior ?
Correct... There are people out there who speak "real" english ;-)
lol - yes, new zealanders follow uk standards
Maybe it is just us Americans that think it is spelled wrong.

Just pointing out the spell checker in the FF Google tool bar thinks
they are spelled wrong. No need to go all anti American, it is not
like we are trying to take over New Zealand (yet)

"rf" <rf (AT) invalid (DOT) com> wrote

"windandwaves" <nfrancken (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Hi Richard

Forgot to mention...

All of that white space and odd looking lines for so little actual
content. Apart from the staff pages you could fit *all* of the content
into one page.

When I look for stuff on the web I look for content. That is, words on my
screen. I don't look for "artistic" lines all over the place.

I also look for words that adjust themselves to the size of my browser
canvas, but we have addressed this before and I know you won't do such
things.

--
Richard.

Maybe you could pay him to design another version of the site just to
satisfy your own predilections and leave his perfectly useable, valid and
aesthetically pleasing site - designed the way he and his client want it -
for the rest of us.

It's always unsatisfactory to be at odds with a group of experts. It
usually means you're wrong. Maybe I am. But it seems that there is a
hegemony of thought that dictates the user knows best always. I'm sorry,
but a lot of users are very naive. For those that aren't, there are a
variety of options for rendering pages according to your own taste. Use
them.

Why is it that structured design in a visual presentation medium is
pilloried so? White space "looks nice". Whether you're selling services or
peddling content, there is no sin in presenting your web page the way you
want it to be presented. If it's accessible, valid, readable, logical and
degrades well when styling is unavailable, then I can't see the problem.

+mrcakey