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Bonnie Granat
 
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Default Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 12:29 AM






I have two issues I'd like some help with. The site address:
www.granatedit.com

ISSUE ONE
My site looks OK in IE 6, Opera 7, and NS 7, but in NS 7, the
div.maincontent doesn't completely render. I know I must be missing
something especially to satisfy that browser, but I don't know what it is.

Here's the style definition:

div.maincontent{
background-color: #000000;
border-bottom-color: #000000;
border-bottom-style: solid;
border-bottom-width: 5px;
width: 100%;
}


ISSUE TWO
I had to use a not-so-good way of getting the icons for W3C to appear at the
bottom of the left column. I put an inline style in the paragraph tag, but I
have to change it for each page by typing the correct number of units that
are required on that page. Is there another solution? I'm sure there is, but
I just don't know it and have worked far too long on this anyway.

Here's the code for that portion (for the index.html page):


<div class="menu"><br /><br />
<p class="copy" style="margin-top: 20em">
<a href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img src="w3c.gif"
alt="Valid XHTML 1.0" height="25" width="70" border="0" /></a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img src="cssw3c.gif"
height="25" width="70" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0" border="0" /></a>

<br /> </p>
</div>
-----------------

COMMENT
Although many of my pages do not validate now (only three do), I am
anticipating the day when they all will and I'd love to be able to insert a
style that I don't have to tweak for each page.


Thanks in advance for any help!
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Bonnie Granat
www.granatedit.com

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 12:48 AM






Quoth the raven named Bonnie Granat:
Quote:
I have two issues I'd like some help with. The site address:
www.granatedit.com
All four of them made it to my Roadrunner server, in a timely fashion.

Don't have time to find a solution for you, but I do like the "layout
of the month" better than the last several. A couple of quick
observations:

a. The indent in several of your lists is too great
b. The two-column content looks nice, but will require
read col 1, scroll down
scroll back up for next column
read col 2, scroll down
scroll back up for menu for next page
It's not a newspaper where no scrolling is necessary.

Otherwise, pretty nice. I didn't look under the hood/bonnet.

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Toby A Inkster
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 04:06 AM



Bonnie Granat wrote:

Quote:
I had to use a not-so-good way of getting the icons for W3C to appear at the
bottom of the left column.
Have you tried putting them *inside* div#navcontainer?

BTW, nice site (finally!)

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Leonard Blaisdell
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 04:55 AM



In article <71c7825b.0402072129.54f05e2d (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>,
bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com (Bonnie Granat) wrote:

Quote:
I have two issues I'd like some help with. The site address:
www.granatedit.com
Actually, you have three. I had to reboot twice attempting to access your
site with MacIE5. No idea why. But it is a serious annoyance for anyone
still using MacOS 9.1 and MacIE5. It looks quite nice in MacMozilla 1.2.1
with a minor exception that the text in the left column with the heading
"Technical Editing" spills, in some cases, slightly into the right hand
column.
I see no gif's from the W3C.

leo

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West
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 05:43 AM




"Bonnie Granat" <bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I have two issues I'd like some help with. The site address:
www.granatedit.com

ISSUE ONE
My site looks OK in IE 6, Opera 7, and NS 7, but in NS 7, the
div.maincontent doesn't completely render. I know I must be missing
something especially to satisfy that browser, but I don't know what it is.

Here's the style definition:

div.maincontent{
background-color: #000000;
border-bottom-color: #000000;
border-bottom-style: solid;
border-bottom-width: 5px;
width: 100%;
}


ISSUE TWO
I had to use a not-so-good way of getting the icons for W3C to appear at
the
bottom of the left column. I put an inline style in the paragraph tag, but
I
have to change it for each page by typing the correct number of units that
are required on that page. Is there another solution? I'm sure there is,
but
I just don't know it and have worked far too long on this anyway.

Here's the code for that portion (for the index.html page):


div class="menu"><br /><br /
p class="copy" style="margin-top: 20em"
a href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img src="w3c.gif"
alt="Valid XHTML 1.0" height="25" width="70" border="0" /></a><br /
br /
a href="http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img
src="cssw3c.gif"
height="25" width="70" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0" border="0" /></a

br /> </p
/div
-----------------

COMMENT
Although many of my pages do not validate now (only three do), I am
anticipating the day when they all will and I'd love to be able to insert
a
style that I don't have to tweak for each page.


Thanks in advance for any help!
--

As 'always' Bonnie you have one more issue which you 'always' fail to
address!
....your basic layouts are dull, boring, lack creativity, sense of color and
a dependence on comments from certain lack-lustre posters to this forum - so
much so, that you display a great lack of self-belief in yourself and any
latent talent you may very well possess.

oops!

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W





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Els
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 06:10 AM




Bonnie Granat wrote:

Quote:
I have two issues I'd like some help with. The site address:
www.granatedit.com

ISSUE ONE
My site looks OK in IE 6, Opera 7, and NS 7, but in NS 7, the
div.maincontent doesn't completely render. I know I must be missing
something especially to satisfy that browser, but I don't know what it is.
I am watching in NS 7, and can't see any difference with IE 6...

Could you say what it is that doesn't "completely render" as
you said?

Quote:
ISSUE TWO
I had to use a not-so-good way of getting the icons for W3C to appear at the
bottom of the left column. I put an inline style in the paragraph tag, but I
have to change it for each page by typing the correct number of units that
are required on that page. Is there another solution? I'm sure there is, but
I just don't know it and have worked far too long on this anyway.
I don't think you should put those icons on your page. The
page looks good as it is, and those icons only make it look
tacky. (imnsho)

Quote:
COMMENT
Although many of my pages do not validate now (only three do), I am
anticipating the day when they all will and I'd love to be able to insert a
style that I don't have to tweak for each page.
That can be done, but as I haven't looked at your code, I
have no idea how much work it is. But your site hasn't all
that many differences between pages, so it 'should' be
fairly simple. ;-)

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Els

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Bonnie Granat
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 04:42 PM



"West" <not (AT) this (DOT) one> wrote

Quote:
address!
...your basic layouts are dull, boring, lack creativity, sense of color and
a dependence on comments from certain lack-lustre posters to this forum - so
much so, that you display a great lack of self-belief in yourself and any
latent talent you may very well possess.

oops!
West,

As I have said before, I am a technical editor and writer, not a
graphic designer.

I rarely look at this list at all, and I am being consciously
conservative in color on the site. I do feel as if my sites always
look like printed matter stuck on a window, but I don't know how to
break out of it. I could create many more pages and have them each
have only a small topic on them. But that would involve a lot of
clicking. Do people want that?

Someone else mentioned that when someone's using large type, you have
to scroll down to read a column. Well, what's the solution to that?
You have to scroll down on other pages. I simply will not produce a
page that had more than four or five horizontal inches of text.
Period. I'm stubborn on that.

But I tend to agree with you that it's boring, in a way. I've been
toying with the idea of just using a box in the center with little
chunks of information. But as I mentioned above, that means a lot of
clicking to get all of the information.

In addition, I am somewhat constrained in making it snazzier by lack
of suitable graphics. I've seen what's available for free, and I don't
care for them.

Who knows? Maybe I'll try another layout that is different sometime.

Thanks.


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Bonnie Granat
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 04:54 PM



leo (AT) greatbasin (DOT) com (Leonard Blaisdell) wrote in message news:<leo->
Quote:
Actually, you have three. I had to reboot twice attempting to access your
site with MacIE5. No idea why. But it is a serious annoyance for anyone
still using MacOS 9.1 and MacIE5. It looks quite nice in MacMozilla 1.2.1
with a minor exception that the text in the left column with the heading
"Technical Editing" spills, in some cases, slightly into the right hand
column.
There isn't anything on the site that should cause it to crash. The
home page, in fact, validates. Try it again. I'm sorry you had a
problem.

The list in the first column on the home page is styled thusly and
shouldn't spill over (I can't get it to spill over no matter how large
I set the text in the browser -- the only time it does that is when
the main part of the page breaks and goes below the menu, and then I
don't care what it does because it's already broken by then):

li.mainspaced {
background-color: transparent;
color: #000000;
font-size: 100%;
font-weight: 400;
line-height: 140%;
margin-bottom: 11px;
margin-left: 4%;
margin-right: 1%;
margin-top: 2%;
text-align: left;
}

I just checked and the index page validates, so if you still have a
problem, it's not my page (for once).

Bonnie


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Bonnie Granat
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 04:54 PM



Toby A Inkster <UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Bonnie Granat wrote:

I had to use a not-so-good way of getting the icons for W3C to appear at the
bottom of the left column.

Have you tried putting them *inside* div#navcontainer?

BTW, nice site (finally!)
Thanks, Toby. But you knew, didn't you, that I'd now ask, "Were the
other sites really so bad?"

; )

Bonnie


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Bonnie Granat
 
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Default Re: Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google) - 02-08-2004 , 05:06 PM



"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
Quote:
Don't have time to find a solution for you, but I do like the "layout
of the month" better than the last several. A couple of quick
observations:

a. The indent in several of your lists is too great
There are a lot of lists. Can you narrow it down? Sometimes I had to
compromise to accommodate browsers. The writing samples on
samples.html, where I have Sample 1, Sample, 2, and Sample 3, is odd,
I know, but it cannot be helped, I don't think.

Quote:
b. The two-column content looks nice, but will require
read col 1, scroll down
scroll back up for next column
read col 2, scroll down
scroll back up for menu for next page
It's not a newspaper where no scrolling is necessary.

You can read that way, or you can just read each section under a
heading. There's no need to read one column first. I put the separator
there only to aid reading, not to say that one must read by the
column.

I don't know how to address that issue, though, unless I don't go
below the "fold," but then in small type sizes and high resolutions,
the page looks ridiculous.

Quote:
Otherwise, pretty nice. I didn't look under the hood/bonnet.

Thank you very much for your comments. I hope that you can tell me a
little bit more specifically about the problem lists when you get a
chance.

Bonnie


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