Two Minor Issues - Fourth Try at Posting (now via Google)

Bonnie Granat wrote:

Thanks, Toby. But you knew, didn't you, that I'd now ask, "Were the
other sites really so bad?"

They weren't so bad, but I think this one is much better.

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Quoth the raven named Bonnie Granat:

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:

a. The indent in several of your lists is too great

There are a lot of lists. Can you narrow it down?

Yes, there are a lot of lists. Narrow down by page? Ok, let's see...

Bullets should be moved left in:
copyediting.html left column
technicalwriting.html left column

resume.html looks silly as two columns

Sometimes I had to compromise to accommodate browsers. The writing
samples on samples.html, where I have Sample 1, Sample, 2, and
Sample 3, is odd, I know, but it cannot be helped, I don't think.

The sample1/2/3 should be expanded to fill the content area. The
narrow columns are... um, bad. The images should be larger, too.

b. The two-column content looks nice, but will require read col
1, scroll down scroll back up for next column read col 2, scroll
down scroll back up for menu for next page It's not a newspaper
where no scrolling is necessary.

You can read that way, or you can just read each section under a
heading. There's no need to read one column first. I put the
separator there only to aid reading, not to say that one must read
by the column.

The vertical separator is fine.

I don't know how to address that issue, though, unless I don't go
below the "fold," but then in small type sizes and high
resolutions, the page looks ridiculous.

Consider that your "fold" may be higher than my "fold." I may have
extra toolbars and a shorter viewport.

If you are, don't use small type sizes.

Otherwise, pretty nice. I didn't look under the hood/bonnet.

...and still didn't 'cause it will change in twenty minutes. <g> The
menu went from links to flyspecks in the previous hour.

Thank you very much for your comments. I hope that you can tell me
a little bit more specifically about the problem lists when you get
a chance.

'Snough?

Looks the same in Opera/F'bird/IE6/Win2K.

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In article <71c7825b.0402081354.2acd3093 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>,
bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com (Bonnie Granat) wrote:

leo (AT) greatbasin (DOT) com (Leonard Blaisdell) wrote in message news:<leo-
Actually, you have three. I had to reboot twice attempting to access your
site with MacIE5. No idea why. But it is a serious annoyance for anyone
still using MacOS 9.1 and MacIE5.

There isn't anything on the site that should cause it to crash. The
home page, in fact, validates. Try it again. I'm sorry you had a
problem.

Having a problem is no big deal. That's what this newsgroup is for :-)
However, I just tried it again with MacIE5 and it froze me up again
causing me to reboot.

I just checked and the index page validates, so if you still have a
problem, it's not my page (for once).

Unfortunately, validation does not guarantee browser behavior. Perhaps
someone else with a setup like mine can either confirm or debunk what I am
saying. Well ... they can debunk it in a universal sense but not a
particular instance. It does freeze my old Mac with IE5. I access it just
fine with Mozilla.

leo

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While sitting in a puddle Toby A Inkster scribbled in the mud:

Bonnie Granat wrote:

Thanks, Toby. But you knew, didn't you, that I'd now ask, "Were the
other sites really so bad?"

They weren't so bad, but I think this one is much better.

Very diplomatic response.

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Bonnie Granat wrote:

I have two issues I'd like some help with. The site address:
www.granatedit.com

You have more than two issues that need addressing.

You are still mixing px and % widths inappropriately, thus the layout
does not adjust well to smaller window sizes. At something less than
800px wide, the content shifts under the navbar. This has been an issue
with pretty much every columned version of the site you've ever done.

The non-breaking space (&nbsp between your list item "heading" and the
description causes some text on that line to be clipped. For example,
on that first list item, "Comprehensive" is chopped off. BTW, I think
your unordered list markup should actually be definition list markup.
To me, "Developmental Editing..." looks like a definition term followed
by its description.

Text size is too small due to font-size inheritance. You have so many
different class selectors with font-size:90% or font-size:95% that I bet
you don't have any idea what size some elements actually are. With body
set at font-size:95%, the rendered size for some elements is 70% or less
(i.e. 90% of 90% of 90% of 95%).

Actually, I think you have far too many class selectors anyway. The
code could be seriously streamlined. That would make it much easier to
maintain. Right now you are mostly hacking away trying to get something
to "work", but you are only making the code harder to manage.

Finally, as for your message posting problem... my ISP's news service
has been crap lately, too. Some messages don't show up in my newsreader
for hours, days, or at all, but they appear in google groups in a pretty
timely fashion. Maybe our ISPs are using the same news.twtelecom.net
service, eh?

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While sitting in a puddle kchayka scribbled in the mud:

Finally, as for your message posting problem... my ISP's news service
has been crap lately, too. Some messages don't show up in my newsreader
for hours, days, or at all, but they appear in google groups in a pretty
timely fashion. Maybe our ISPs are using the same news.twtelecom.net
service, eh?

Switch to news.individual.net (http://individual.net/)

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Duende wrote:

While sitting in a puddle kchayka scribbled in the mud:

my ISP's news service has been crap lately, too.

Switch to news.individual.net (http://individual.net/)

Thanks for the tip, I'll check them out.

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Someone else mentioned that when someone's using large type, you have
to scroll down to read a column. Well, what's the solution to that?
You have to scroll down on other pages. I simply will not produce a
page that had more than four or five horizontal inches of text.
Period. I'm stubborn on that.

Although newish to authoring websites - and purely amateur at
that - a thought occurred to me about the necessary scrolling to read
all of the information contained in your pages. As you utilise a
twin-column layout, one has to scroll down to finish reading the first
column, then scroll back up to get the top of the second column, then
down again etc. If you were to contain a nominal "page full" of
two-column text in one box, then another, and so on until the page's
content was exhausted, you would half the required scrolling, and make
your content much more user friendly, which, I guess, is what you are
aiming to achieve :-).

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Will.

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

In article <71c7825b.0402081354.2acd3093 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>,
bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com (Bonnie Granat) wrote:

I just checked and the index page validates, so if you still have a
problem, it's not my page (for once).

Unfortunately, validation does not guarantee browser behavior.

Yup, you are correct. Validation only eliminates syntax errors as a
possible cause of rendering issues. CSS "validation" is particularly
tricky, since no automated validator can check that a style rule is used
in the right context.

Perhaps
someone else with a setup like mine can either confirm or debunk what I am
saying. It does freeze my old Mac with IE5.

Mac OSX 10.2.8, IE 5.2 freezes up as well. OSX has a way to kill the
app without rebooting, though.

The IE progress bar shows the home page just about halfway loaded. The
status line reads
"Receiving image (0 bytes of 854 bytes, 0 bytes/sec): tn_a2.gif"
The image itself isn't necessarily the trouble, though. I think it's
probably something in the stylesheet. MacIE's CSS support isn't as good
as more modern browsers.

FWIW, Safari build v85 doesn't have any such trouble, except that the
default window size is narrow enough so the content flows under the nav
bar like mozilla and Opera do.

You're not imagining it, Leo. But considering how complicated
Bonnie's HTML and CSS have gotten, it's going to be a chore hunting down
the actual cause.

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Bonnie's <snip> the actual cause.

You just found the problem.

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