Site Crituque

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:49:43 +0000, Toby A Inkster
<UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote:

That is caused by the fact that he's using frames: nothing to do with his
domain name.

Actually, it has everything to do with the domain name, Take a search
of (free) .tk domains, and view the source, you will see that they all
load into a frame like that, which is my point. Its how they put the
popups in.

By loading this way, tk domains don't allow you to put your metatags
in, or the actual content of the site, because thier frame page loads,
and not all crawlers will operate properly in this environment.

If you pay for the .tk domain, they use standard DNS resolution,
making it identical to any other domain. But if you use the free
version, it actually loads your site into a frame.



:: Jeremy Morgan ::
Self Proclaimed Expert
Web Developer
http://www.webfootcentral.com

Jeremy C. Morgan wrote:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:49:43 +0000, Toby A Inkster
UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote:

That is caused by the fact that he's using frames: nothing to do with his
domain name.

you will see that they all
load into a frame like that, which is my point. Its how they put the
popups in.

You mean like this?
http://www.xasa.tk/

No frames!

If you pay for the .tk domain, they use standard DNS resolution,
making it identical to any other domain. But if you use the free
version, it actually loads your site into a frame.

Ditto with the cheap domain registration at uk2.net, but does that mean
that all .com, .net, .org, .co.uk, .ltd.uk, .plc.uk, .org.uk, .me.uk, etc
domains are bad for search engines?

Don't confuse crappy registrars with TLDs.

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On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 07:25:06 +0000, Toby A Inkster
<UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote:

Jeremy C. Morgan wrote:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:49:43 +0000, Toby A Inkster
UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote:

That is caused by the fact that he's using frames: nothing to do with his
domain name.

you will see that they all
load into a frame like that, which is my point. Its how they put the
popups in.

You mean like this?
http://www.xasa.tk/

No frames!

Read Below:

If you pay for the .tk domain, they use standard DNS resolution,
making it identical to any other domain. But if you use the free
version, it actually loads your site into a frame.

Read the entire post. This is why I dont argue with people on usenet.
They are more concerned with the argument than the facts involved. I
was trying to help this person, and you want it turn it into a petty
flame war, and you're doing a shitty job. You are wrong, face it.

Ditto with the cheap domain registration at uk2.net, but does that mean
that all .com, .net, .org, .co.uk, .ltd.uk, .plc.uk, .org.uk, .me.uk, etc
domains are bad for search engines?


Don't confuse crappy registrars with TLDs.

How many registrars give out the .tk domain? Ok.


Take my word for it. I have been explaining in circles here:

1. if you pay for a tk, its the same as any other domain as far as
search engines are concerned. When you PAY for it.

2. If you do the "free" .tk, your site loads into a frame. This is so
they can load popups. And it does not perform as well in search
engines. I explained why in a previous post:

Crawlers use http responses, therefore they dont see the same thing
you see in the browser. If they crawl your site, they MIGHT crawl each
page referenced in the frame, and even if they do, its not going to
help the pagerank of that particular page, because people are linking
to the .tk frames page, not the page containing the actual content.

Do I really have to explain how pagerank works in conjuction with the
actual content of the page, and how rankings are displayed, just to
satisfy your interrogation?

or maybe you could do us all a favor and make a better attempt at
proving me wrong. ( I still haven't figured out why you are trying so
hard to do that, I'm helping someone here.).


:: Jeremy Morgan ::
Self Proclaimed Expert
Web Developer
http://www.webfootcentral.com

Jeremy C. Morgan wrote:

Toby A Inkster wrote:
Don't confuse crappy registrars with TLDs.
How many registrars give out the .tk domain? Ok.

There are two on the first page of results for a Google search: .tk
registrar.

http://www.pontotk.tk/
http://www.dot.tk/

And I've also found

http://www.dotz.tk/

There are probably more still.

My point is that Google doesn't give a shit about whether your domain ends
with .tk, .fk or .uk. As long as the name resolves and has an HTTP server
running on tcp/80, Google can index it.

Frames *do* effect Google's algorithms, but the .tk ccTLD mandates frames
no more than .fk or .uk do.

I still haven't figured out why you are trying so hard to do that, I'm
helping someone here.

How are you helping?

The site looks good, but man, you gotta get a real domain.

So the OP goes out and gets a similar crappy framed redirection from a
..com registrar. How does that help?

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<UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> say...

Jeremy C. Morgan wrote:
Toby A Inkster wrote:
Don't confuse crappy registrars with TLDs.
How many registrars give out the .tk domain? Ok.

There are two on the first page of results for a Google search: .tk
registrar.

http://www.pontotk.tk/
http://www.dot.tk/

How intresting! The site for the DotTK site is pleasing to look at, and
the concept behind it is cool too. If i'm reading right, some
enterprising individual is offering low and no cost domain names. I
assume the money they collect will be used by the indigenous peoples when
they need to deal with the outside world.


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