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Stephen Poley
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 02:44 PM






On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:33:09 GMT, "Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

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I made a website and the address is http://truelightphotography.com and
would like some feedback as it is the first site I made. ( I know I didn't
put an enter button on first page...purposely)
Not too bad on the whole. However:

I'm not keen on the Splash page. Just gets in the way.

The text is too small for comfortable reading for me, and Verdana is not
a very good idea. See
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/fontsize.html and
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/verdana.html (I've put quite
a few things on my website to save typing them in time after time.)

You should know Brown's Law: "The need to protect someone's precious
HTML coding is inversely proportional to their desire to protect it".
(Or to put it another way: attempts to hide code imply that the code is
so bad that no-one would want to copy it.)

Learn about external stylesheets. You'll be extremely glad you did when
it comes to making some style changes. In fact learn CSS in general: it
makes the markup much simpler than you have at present.

You don't seem to have any heading elements. Learn about them as well.

You've got some validation errors. Make friends with the validators,
e.g. http://validator.w3.org/ and
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator-uri.html

On reading the code, it appears that you've put a copyright notice in a
Javascript alert. Totally pointless: I didn't see it and nor will a lot
of other people. If a copyright notice is needed at all (and it probably
isn't) then it needs to be clearly visible to all readers.

Actually I see a few more familiar points. You might like to have a run
through my checklist:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/checklist.html

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/


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Virginia
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 07:57 PM







"Spartanicus" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

--
Spartanicur

That's not my sig.

Well Spartanicur all the blank lines are for people who want to see the
code, and it fools surprisingly a lot of people, and they don't scroll
down
far enough to find the code.

Your first site and already you think that you've created a masterpiece
that people will want to steal? Get real.

And as for your comment :"""Some form of js UA sniffing, horrible.""""
What the hell is that supposed to mean. All that JS is doing is giving
the
person a copyright message.

Pointless, and it didn't work.

Have you never copyrighted pages? I have copyrighted the pages so no one
can right click on any of the pictures.

No one? Are you sure about that? And what does your silly no right click
"protection" have to do with copyright?

It was the first site I made. Your sure like to dump everything possible
on
a person, don't you?

Psst: you posted in alt.html.CRITIQUE, and that's what you got. Perhaps
you prefer alt.tell.me.how.great.i.am

It's a tad unrealistic to expect praise for a first effort from advanced
authors, you have an awful lot to learn, but the signs are that your ego
inhibits your need to learn.

--
Spartanicus

=====================
As to your reply when you said --snipped from above
Your first site and already you think that you've created a masterpiece that
people will want to steal? Get real. ---end of snip

What a fucking insult to me. It was not my doing at all!

No I don't think I created a masterpiece. THE OWNER OF THE WEBSITE is a
photographer and wanted me to do that!!!
You let you imagination run wild without knowing the facts and you are rude
and an idiot!


(snipped form above and when you said "Psst: you posted in
alt.html.CRITIQUE, and that's what you got. Perhaps
you prefer alt.tell.me.how.great.i.am (end of snip)

No I don't want to be told how great I am because I'm not and if I was, I
am a humble person, unlike you. and wouldn't expect that.

Like I said it was my first site. Give me a break. You' re the biggest
dick I have ever heard on this newsgroup which I will now unsubscribe to
since I get nothing I ask for anyways. Get a life Buddy!!

I bet you aren't married because I don't know of ANY woman who want put up
with you or want you
I'll make sure never to post to any more newsgroups if they all have idiots
like you. What a waste of my time reading your supposed comments but
instead you threw innuendos and insults!
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Virginia
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 07:59 PM




"CarolW." <from_you (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:44:08 GMT, "Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com
wrote:


"Spartanicus" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message

news:fkkkv0d589a2k2415ru1pjil226aq7v9o6 (AT) news (DOT) spartanicus.utvinternet.ie...
"Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I made a website and the address is http://truelightphotography.com
and
would like some feedback as it is the first site I made. ( I know I
didn't
put an enter button on first page...purposely)

Enter "button" or not, it has an "enter" splash page, I can't stand
them.

1) What's with all the blank lines above the html?
2) Transitional coding, yoohoo, that may have been acceptable in 1996,
but that was 9 years ago. Nowadays content should be used to structure
and semantically describe the content, use css for all presentational
issues.
3) Some form of js UA sniffing, horrible.
4) Something on top of the page got killed by my ad filter, best avoid
graphics with "banner" in the file name.
5) target="_blank" on a mailto link? What do you hope that will
achieve?
(not that using it is ever acceptable)
6) Fixed width design, don't, allow the content to flow in the
available
space.
7) Fonts are smaller than my default setting, difficult to read as a
result.

--
Spartanicur



Well Spartanicur all the blank lines are for people who want to see the
code, and it fools surprisingly a lot of people, and they don't scroll
down
far enough to find the code.

Why do it though? Nothing wildly original about the markup or the
layout.

[snip]

Have you never copyrighted pages? I have copyrighted the pages so no one
can right click on any of the pictures.

That isn't copyrighting the images; just using a script to try to
control the user's mouse. It also disables all right click actions -
even if the person could care less about snagging a picture from the
page. Irksome script actually and doesn't really deter people from
lifting an image from a site except some of the newbies.

Copyrighting of pages is simple; upload them. If wanting a message
then share &copy; [data wish to be shared her] _on_ the page itself
[not a message window].

About images, I like how gettyimages.com, and some others that do
similar, handle sharing copyright notices on their images; let's one
know whose work it is while not overly marring the iamge itself [can
still see the image and the text doesn't greatly interfere with that].


It was the first site I made. Your sure like to dump everything possible
on
a person, don't you?

Didn't you ask for a critique?

I agree with Spartnicus about dropping the splash page. Really not
needed for this site - or if wanting to use a splash page, have it do
more than load in an image to click to access one page in the site.
Think of search engines as well as users.

I would reconsider the Canadian flag, and it's alt text. If there for
search engines as a way to share additional keywords - can skip that
idea as that trick doesn't work any more on unlinked images except
within the image search section of Google and Yahoo. But it really
stands out - and looks a little out of place - on the black
background/white text look.

At 800 x 600 on IE I have a large gap on the right hand side of around
200+ pixels in width on the intro.html page. This may be due to the
content being put into a table layout, which is not necessary, and
then set at 70% in width but it aligns to the left. Could drop the
table layout, as it really isn't needed for the layout, then use CSS
to set the left and right margins to center the content.

Also consider using CSS for bits like this:
p align="justify"> <font face="Verdana,Tahoma, Arial" size="2"> and
center

Carol
Yes I would have not had a Splash Page but again my client wanted one. so
that is why it is there






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Virginia
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 08:08 PM




"Samuël van Laere" <fortron (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:
"Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
news:F2sKd.196771$6l.177844 (AT) pd7tw2no (DOT) ..
I made a website and the address is http://truelightphotography.com and
would like some feedback as it is the first site I made. ( I know I
didn't
put an enter button on first page...purposely)Thanks in Advance.


It would be so much better with Flash advertising, popups, animated gifs
and
scrolling text,
also the IE statusbar could use some nifty moving text, that would be so
cool. ;p
There's nothing on that site that makes me want to come back.

Regards,
Sam



Well thank you for that useless insulting information

I ran some less boring ideas by my client and he was adamant he wanted the
site like that and didn't want anything to take away from his photos since
it is a photographer's website, so all I was doing to please the customer.




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Virginia
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 08:18 PM




"Spartanicus" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Well Spartanicur all the blank lines are for people who want to see the
code, and it fools surprisingly a lot of people, and they don't scroll
down
far enough to find the code.

Your first site and already you think that you've created a masterpiece
that people will want to steal? Get real.

And as for your comment :"""Some form of js UA sniffing, horrible.""""
What the hell is that supposed to mean. All that JS is doing is giving
the
person a copyright message.

Pointless, and it didn't work.

Have you never copyrighted pages? I have copyrighted the pages so no one
can right click on any of the pictures.

No one? Are you sure about that? And what does your silly no right click
"protection" have to do with copyright?

It was the first site I made. Your sure like to dump everything possible
on
a person, don't you?

Psst: you posted in alt.html.CRITIQUE, and that's what you got. Perhaps
you prefer alt.tell.me.how.great.i.am

It's a tad unrealistic to expect praise for a first effort from advanced
authors, you have an awful lot to learn, but the signs are that your ego
inhibits your need to learn.
Spartanicus


Hwy Sparky: What exactly did that mean??
---Snipped from above but the signs are that your ego your need to
learn.----

Like I said it was my first site and I AM taking a multimedia web developer
program next month so I can learn more. I always want to learn more. I
love doing this, whether I am good or not. I have taught myself so far, so
I'm sure you will get a good laugh out of that and tell me don't make
another site the rest of your life.

End of message, and don't bother replying because I don't want hear your
insults when you don't have any fucking idea what you are talking about.
ME...EGO? Ask anyone who knows me. There could be nothing further from the
truth!

Look buddy, I think you are the one with the EGO. Why don't you sign your
name 'GOD' instead on these newsgroups?




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Bernhard Sturm
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 08:34 PM



Stephen Poley wrote:
Quote:
The text is too small for comfortable reading for me, and Verdana is not
a very good idea. See
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/fontsize.html and
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/verdana.html (I've put quite
a few things on my website to save typing them in time after time.)
you don't mean this for real, don't you?
The above two links do state a couple of facts that I would consider as
very dangerous for the least:
Verdana was designed for best screen legibility, and is one of the very
rare things Microsoft introduced for the benefit of the web (BTW the fonts
Georgia and Verdana were introduced by Microsoft, but they were designed
by a famous typographer whos name just escapped me).
Claiming Verdana is a bad font choice because of it's size would neglect
the fact that you can set font sizes with CSS. There is a reason why you
should avoid serif typefaces for small sizes. The reason is that your
screen has a very limited resolution compared to a sheet of paper.
It's a big mistake to think that if serif fonts are good in print they
must be good on the screen as well.. they are not. google a bit about
this issue. If you are going to propagate serif fonts, then propagate
Georgia, but forget Times (or as a windows user Times New Roman), they
were not designed for screen readability, but are great typfaces for
print purposes.
In your quoted links are some other fundamental errors:
There are no special fonts defined in a UA.
Fonts are available on the users system but not on the UA itself. If you
use a windows OS then your system has most certainly installed: Arial,
Verdana, Georgia, Times New Roman. If you are under a Mac OS your system
will most probably have 'Helvetica, Verdana, Georgia, Times'. And if
your system is a linux flavour you will have 'Helvetica, Times'. Now I
think you will get the drift, why it's not bad to use a CSS statement
such as 'font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;' As it will
almost certainly cover all affected OS of your target audiance.
Only the last statement 'sans-serif' will trigger the UA to use the font
which is set as 'sans-serif' in the UAs options. But as the font-family
is read from left to right by the UA most certainly an available OS font
will be picked.
And be aware by using the font definition 'Times' this font exist on Mac
as well as on Windows OS, but under Windows the font can be from an
entirely different foundry (not to mention the metrics).
Another thing is your definition of 100% font sizes... you better use em
or en for text-size (the equivalent width of the uppercase letter M or N
as a referenceof the relevant font). 1em is defined as the equivalent of
16px by the W3C.
Something striking for those of you who always thought that px is an
absolute length unit: according to the W3C it is a relative unit (like
em), and hence recommended by the W3C as a valid text-size unit (see:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#length-units and
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/font-size)

HTH
Bernhard


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CarolW.
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 08:38 PM



On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:59:11 GMT, "Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
"CarolW." <from_you (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:41fa7ab0.14522422 (AT) news (DOT) prodigy.net...
[snip]

I agree with Spartnicus about dropping the splash page. Really not
needed for this site - or if wanting to use a splash page, have it do
more than load in an image to click to access one page in the site.
Think of search engines as well as users.
[snip]

Quote:
Yes I would have not had a Splash Page but again my client wanted one. so
that is why it is there
Well you could have it do more than just hold a logo-like image that
one has to click on to access one page out of the site. Be
imaginative!

Carol



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Virginia
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-28-2005 , 08:39 PM




"Stephen Poley" <sbpoleySpicedHamTrap (AT) xs4all (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:33:09 GMT, "Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com
wrote:

I made a website and the address is http://truelightphotography.com and
would like some feedback as it is the first site I made. ( I know I
didn't
put an enter button on first page...purposely)

Not too bad on the whole. However:

I'm not keen on the Splash page. Just gets in the way.

The text is too small for comfortable reading for me, and Verdana is not
a very good idea. See
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/fontsize.html and
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/verdana.html (I've put quite
a few things on my website to save typing them in time after time.)

You should know Brown's Law: "The need to protect someone's precious
HTML coding is inversely proportional to their desire to protect it".
(Or to put it another way: attempts to hide code imply that the code is
so bad that no-one would want to copy it.)

Learn about external stylesheets. You'll be extremely glad you did when
it comes to making some style changes. In fact learn CSS in general: it
makes the markup much simpler than you have at present.

You don't seem to have any heading elements. Learn about them as well.

You've got some validation errors. Make friends with the validators,
e.g. http://validator.w3.org/ and
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator-uri.html

On reading the code, it appears that you've put a copyright notice in a
Javascript alert. Totally pointless: I didn't see it and nor will a lot
of other people. If a copyright notice is needed at all (and it probably
isn't) then it needs to be clearly visible to all readers.

Actually I see a few more familiar points. You might like to have a run
through my checklist:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/checklist.html

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/
==========================
To Stephen: THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU. Just what I was looking for
......constructive criticism, not down right insults and name calling. I
like you, and thank you for your choice of words and politeness. I wish it
would rub off some others!

Thanks again. It was much appreciated!! :-)
=============================




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Barbara de Zoete
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-29-2005 , 03:56 AM



On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:08:58 GMT, Virginia <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Well thank you for that useless insulting information

I see a pattern emerge.

*ploink*


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Wouter
 
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Default Re: Site critque request plz - 01-29-2005 , 06:20 AM




"Virginia" <missjoker97 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I made a website and the address is http://truelightphotography.com and
would like some feedback as it is the first site I made.
I would like to have the menu on a fixed place on every page, within the
first display on a 700x500 viewpoint.

You can leave the current menu in (looks good).
But I don't like to scroll down whole page if I see that it's not the page
that I was looking for.
So maybe put some on top under the logo or something, so that ik I klik, the
"new" menu will apear under my mouse again.

Wouter




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