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pensioner.hrvat.name
 
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Default See my web pages - 05-30-2009 , 02:57 AM






I would like your opinion.
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In English www.hrvat.name
www.nation.hrvat.name
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Andrew Heenan
 
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Default Re: See my web pages - 05-30-2009 , 07:21 AM






"pensioner.hrvat.name" <ation (AT) hrvat (DOT) name> wrote ...
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I would like your opinion.
I read halfway down your first page, and it gave not one clue what you are
selling; it was boring, repetitive, and vacuous.

Oh, and it's broad fixed width means you require a horizontal scroll if you
have a small screen, or less than full-screen browser windows. That's a
killer.

The secret of of marketing - and of search engine success - is to put
yourself in the head of your target audience. I suspect "people who want to
commit suicide by being bored to death" is rather small subset of the
population.



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Default Re: See my web pages - 05-30-2009 , 10:40 AM



dorayme wrote:
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In article <2KmdnSV3xYlWgrzXnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
"www.hrvat.name" <info (AT) hrvat (DOT) name> wrote:

dorayme wrote:
In article <hLCdnVJybeNyRb3XnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
"pensioner.hrvat.name" <ation (AT) hrvat (DOT) name> wrote:

I would like your opinion.
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In English www.hrvat.name

From a user point of view, it would be better not to have to scroll
horizontally for those of us who prefer to have browser windows
between 600 and 800px wide.
But how to make this? I would like to do it the way you mention, but
because I am a newbie and just got that far. But thanks for looking
at this one for me.

Ah ... about how to make this happen, it is hard to know where to
begin. Where are you starting from? This job looks like something
generated from Microsoft
It's one of the Office family, probably word, with many of the serial
numbers filed off. The only thing that excels over word in stuffing up HTML
documents is Excel. Unless it's powerpoint.

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and how to do it from your MS starting point I
would not have a clue.
Delete the entire site and start again?




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Default Re: See my web pages - 05-30-2009 , 01:06 PM



On Sat, 30 May 2009 14:40:02 +0000, rf writ:

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The only thing that excels over word in stuffing up HTML documents is
Excel. Unless it's powerpoint.
Not so sure about that. Ever looked at a page created with MS
Publisher? ;-)

Looking at the source will make you seasick.

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Default Re: See my web pages - 05-30-2009 , 07:59 PM



pensioner.hrvat.name wrote:
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I would like your opinion.
[about the sites listed in the now-trimmed sig]

All three sites:

Too long

Too wide

Images not shown (only a problem if I'd *like* to see their content)

Garish colors, esp. the BGs (I could live with the Nation site's colors)

Low contrast foreground/background makes reading difficult

Tiny text

Crowded layout (look for "padding" as a CSS property)

Outrageous ranting by a deranged lunatic

Few real headings. Obscure page structures

Invalid markup (see http://validator.w3.org/):
Site 1: 122 Errors, 1 warning(s)
Site 2: 255 Errors, 5 warning(s)
Site 3: 343 Errors, 5 warning(s)

CSS Validation (see http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/)
Site 1 validates to CSS 2! CSS 3 as well.
Site 2 CSS 2 validation 122 errors 252 warnings
CSS 3 validation 14 errors 55 warnings
Site 3 CSS 2 validation 5 errors 97 warnings
CSS 3 validation 5 errors 0 warnings

The markup errors aren't surprising, as Microsoft's Office products are
notoriously bad at producing HTML. The markup behind these three sites
are great exemplars of how atrocious Office-generated code can be.

If you want good sites, get a pro to do them for you. If you want to
learn how to do good site production yourself, make use of the
<http://www.htmldog.com/> link provided by dorayme. Either way, avoid
depending on MS Office for any site you think is worthy of asking for a
critique of.

HTH
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John


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Andrew Heenan
 
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Default Re: See my web pages - 05-31-2009 , 05:03 AM



"John Hosking" <John (AT) DELETE (DOT) Hosking.name.INVALID> wrote
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Outrageous ranting by a deranged lunatic
That's the point really; there is no point fixing a site that no sane person
will ever spend more than 2.3 seconds reading.

Verbal diarrhoea is fine in the privacy of your own home, but no-one, not
even the diarrhhoea-ist, gains from shitting in public.

It's classic blogger syndrome "this is what I think, therefore the world
wants to know" - but the world doesn't;

*Publishing*, on the other hand , is providing what people do want to read.

1. Close the site.
2. Get a life.
3. Live it.
4. Consider other people, as well as yourself.
5. Try again when you have someting to say that just might be worth sharing.
6. Come here for advice.
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sick-site-syndrome.com

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Default Re: See my web pages - 05-31-2009 , 10:02 AM



"www.hrvat.name" <info (AT) hrvat (DOT) name> wrote
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I am traing again because I always have something to say that I think that
is worth sharing
Well, reaction here suggests otherwise - but let's agree to differ.

But please take the point; the Sun sells millions of copies, not because
it's "good", but because they understand their readership, and give them
*exactly* what they want; even FREE newspapers have to consider their
readership, else no-one will read, they'll lose their advertisers, and die.

It's easy writng for the WWW thinking "it's free, surely they'll come" - but
that is not so; even on the www, there is intense competition, and probably
more blogs than readers (for every blog with 10 million readers, there's 10
million with no readers).

Who are you writing FOR? What will interest THEM?

Think about it!

I'm outta here ...

Andrew




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Default Re: See my web pages - 06-01-2009 , 10:43 PM



On 2009-05-30, www.hrvat.name wrote:
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Andrew Heenan wrote:
"pensioner.hrvat.name" <ation (AT) hrvat (DOT) name> wrote ...
I would like your opinion.
....
Oh, and it's broad fixed width means you require a horizontal scroll
if you have a small screen, or less than full-screen browser windows.
That's a killer.

Thank you for this one. It is my first trial and the next will be narrower.
Why? That will not be good for people with wider windows.

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