Re: Style critique

Previously in alt.www.webmaster,alt.html.critique, Toby Inkster
<usenet200503 (AT) tobyinkster (DOT) co.uk> said:

What do people think of this stylesheet?

http://tobyinkster.co.uk/?stylesArt=cool

Nice. :-)

- Opera 3.x-5.x is smart enough to find the PNG background (a
GIF is provided for stupid browsers -- i.e. IE) but not
smart enough to alpha-blend. Anyone know a CSS hack to
differentiate between Opera < 6 and Opera >= 6?

Only one I can find that may do what you want is the "Simplified box
model hack":

p\roperty:value;

http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/

Haven't tested it myself though.

Any opinions on visual improvements, accessibility and/or cross-browser
compatibility?

As William said, the contrast isn't wonderful. Other than that, nothing
strikes me (only had a quick look).

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http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

Toby Inkster wrote:

Mark Parnell wrote:

Only one I can find that may do what you want is the
"Simplified box model hack":
p\roperty:value;
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/

I already use that to differentiate between IE4&5 and
IE5.5&6, but it doesn't seem to be any use for Opera 5.x
and below. Testing shows Opera 5.12 recognises
"p\roperty:value" just like Opera 6+ does.

What about the third filter on that list?
It's the other way round though, but might work?
(I don't have any Opera 5 to test in, otherwise I'd test before
replying here)

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Toby Inkster wrote

I already use that to differentiate between IE4&5 and IE5.5&6, but it
doesn't seem to be any use for Opera 5.x and below. Testing shows Opera
5.12 recognises "p\roperty:value" just like Opera 6+ does.

God almighty Toby. You like to give yourself work!

Use HTML 4.01 Transitional, with CSS for fonts and background colours,
tables for layout, and you'll never have a worry! (Neither will your
visitors).

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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

On 8 Mar 2005 23:11:15 GMT, Els <els.aNOSPAM (AT) tiscali (DOT) nl> wrote:

...
I don't have any Opera 5 to test in ...

Do you find you often need to support Galician (Opera 5.12) and Celtic
(Opera 5.02) language versions for your visitors?

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which way is up?

Previously in alt.www.webmaster,alt.html.critique, Toby Inkster
<usenet200503 (AT) tobyinkster (DOT) co.uk> said:

Mark Parnell wrote:

p\roperty:value;
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/

I already use that to differentiate between IE4&5 and IE5.5&6, but it
doesn't seem to be any use for Opera 5.x and below. Testing shows Opera
5.12 recognises "p\roperty:value" just like Opera 6+ does.

Not here it doesn't.
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/tests/sbmh/
http://clarkcomputers.com.au/usenet/opera5hack.png [9k]

What about the fourth one on that list - works the other way around
(Opera 5 applies it, but 6+ doesn't).

/*/*//*/property:value;/* */

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Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

William Tasso wrote:

On 8 Mar 2005 23:11:15 GMT, Els <els.aNOSPAM (AT) tiscali (DOT) nl
wrote:

...
I don't have any Opera 5 to test in ...

Do you find you often need to support Galician (Opera 5.12)
and Celtic (Opera 5.02) language versions for your
visitors?

As long as I don't support it, I'll never know :-)

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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

Mark Parnell wrote:

Previously in alt.www.webmaster,alt.html.critique, Toby
Inkster <usenet200503 (AT) tobyinkster (DOT) co.uk> said:
Mark Parnell wrote:

p\roperty:value;
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/

I already use that to differentiate between IE4&5 and
IE5.5&6, but it doesn't seem to be any use for Opera 5.x
and below. Testing shows Opera 5.12 recognises
"p\roperty:value" just like Opera 6+ does.

Not here it doesn't.
http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/tests/sbmh/
http://clarkcomputers.com.au/usenet/opera5hack.png [9k]

What about the fourth one on that list - works the other
way around (Opera 5 applies it, but 6+ doesn't).

/*/*//*/property:value;/* */

Fourth?
/looks again at list...
Right! when I said third in my other post, I meant fourth too
:-)
For some reason I never see that first one, guess my brain
thinks it's part of the header or something.

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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
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