Your comments on our charity's site please

Dear All

I've been re-designing our charity's website with accessibility issues
in mind.
If anyone has the time to look at http://www.ageconcernleics.com
with a critical eye I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how things
should be changed / improved.

Thanks a lot
Graham

PS - I've used vertical bars separating links in a menu although these
links are already within separate table cells - are these bars
therefore unnecessary?

"Graham Cross" <g.cross (AT) care4free (DOT) net> wrote in message on 7/08/03:

If anyone has the time to look at http://www.ageconcernleics.com
with a critical eye I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how things
should be changed / improved.

I'd like to point you to a program, A-Prompt which is great at repairing any
accessibility related problems. I am a student in this class now and this
program offers the ability to repair Priority 1, 2, and 3 issues. The free
toolkit is located at http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca/. This program found
34 problems remaining to fix in order to achieve AAA conformance.

From a design standpoint I am not sure why you have the gray lines at the
top and bottom of the page, I do not think they are necessary.

PS - I've used vertical bars separating links in a menu although these
links are already within separate table cells - are these bars therefore

unnecessary?

No, I would remove them. In addition, I would remove the font tags since
they depricate. Put that information in your stylesheet.

I would rethink the order of the links (or menu) items on the left. You do
not need to label the left column "Menu". I would probably bring the about
us, contact us, FAQ to the bottom and leave the important links at the top.
I might even bring the search link farther at the bottom.

One final thought about left column links would be to add color to the
active and visited. As it is now, there is no distinction or cue to let me
know which page I am on.

Your page passes the CSS validator but there are many, many warnings. These
should be looked at.

Hoping this is not too much information. Nice, clean, to the point website.
Very nice design.

Good work,
Kathy

In message <7d9b6357.0307080310.1ff8a218 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, Graham
Cross <g.cross (AT) care4free (DOT) net> writes

Dear All

I've been re-designing our charity's website with accessibility issues
in mind.
If anyone has the time to look at http://www.ageconcernleics.com
with a critical eye I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how things
should be changed / improved.

Thanks a lot
Graham

PS - I've used vertical bars separating links in a menu although these
links are already within separate table cells - are these bars
therefore unnecessary?

I've checked a couple of pages in a voice browser and they sound OK --
except for one thing.

At the start of the menu, you have got a 'skip navigation' link.

Unfortunately you've styled it {display : none;}

Not only is it invisible to visual browsers, it will also be invisible
to voice browsers.

Take this styling off and make it visible -- or use the 'one-pixel .gif'
approach if you want to keep the link invisible (visually).

regards.
--
Jake

jake wrote:

I've checked a couple of pages in a voice browser and they sound OK --
except for one thing.
At the start of the menu, you have got a 'skip navigation' link.
Unfortunately you've styled it {display : none;}
Not only is it invisible to visual browsers, it will also be invisible
to voice browsers.

Interesting! Can you tell me which voice browser you used (and where it can
be obtained)?
Nico.

In message <3f0f6929$0$28905$1b62eedf (AT) news (DOT) euronet.nl>, Nico Schuyt
<nschuyt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes

jake wrote:
I've checked a couple of pages in a voice browser and they sound OK --
except for one thing.
At the start of the menu, you have got a 'skip navigation' link.
Unfortunately you've styled it {display : none;}
Not only is it invisible to visual browsers, it will also be invisible
to voice browsers.

Interesting! Can you tell me which voice browser you used (and where it can
be obtained)?
Nico.

http://www-3.ibm.com/able/solution_offerings/hpr.html


--
Jake

In message <3f0fc5fd$0$28886$1b62eedf (AT) news (DOT) euronet.nl>, Nico Schuyt
<nschuyt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes

jake wrote:
Nico Schuyt wrote
jake wrote:
At the start of the menu, you have got a 'skip navigation' link.
Unfortunately you've styled it {display : none;}
Not only is it invisible to visual browsers, it will also be
invisible to voice browsers.

Interesting! Can you tell me which voice browser you used (and where
it can be obtained)?

http://www-3.ibm.com/able/solution_offerings/hpr.html

Thanks! Downloading the trialversion (40.5MB) right now.

You'll need to run it alongside IE6. (IE 5.5 should be OK, but IE5 can
give HPR problems with sites using frames.)

BTW Did you notice the setup of the IBM-page with Nested tables?
Nico


No, can't say that I did. (I don't really have a problem with commercial

sites using tables for layout -- at least not for the next year or two
until legacy browsers are a thing of the past for most users).

Was it particularly bad?

regards

--
Jake