need help with design for content managment system [cross posted to

Myself and two friends have been working on a PHP content management
system for several months. We have, I think, developed some good
technology, though we have not yet come up with any good template
designs. We would love some help. We did a few quick templates as
hacks, just to see if the software works, but I don't think any of
them validate as HTML 4. We are stretched a little thin on this
project, so we invite people to help.

The software's features include weblogs, newsletters, RSS, and a
completely customizable admin control panel that can accept multiple
templates. The public portion of the site can also accept unlimited
templates.

We need some help debugging it, so if anyone wants to help, please
drop me a line. Anyone who helps us debug gets a free website for two
years.

We donate the software to the public domain. Don't offer help unless
you're okay about donating your work to the public. If anyone would
like to donate some good designs, that would be terrific, and you'd be
expanding what is available to the public.

Anyone who has any interest in this should contact me and I'll set you
up with an account.

I wrote more about the software here:

http://www.publicdomainsoftware.org/...hp?pageId=1962

In article <da7e68e8.0405221316.446ee440 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, lawrence
says...

http://www.publicdomainsoftware.org/...hp?pageId=1962

What's all that text in the background for?

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On Sun, 23 May 2004 21:34:22 +0100, Hywel <hyweljenkins (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

In article <da7e68e8.0405221316.446ee440 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, lawrence
says...
http://www.publicdomainsoftware.org/...hp?pageId=1962

What's all that text in the background for?

Annmoying the hell out of me, ostensibly. Makes the page about 4 to 5
times as heavy as necessary.

brucie wrote:

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> said:

Makes the page about 4 to 5 times as heavy as necessary.

you can knock off about 85k if you gzip it.

Why not using tar.gzip, it's less than 85k.
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Edwin van der Vaart wrote:

brucie wrote:
Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> said:

Makes the page about 4 to 5 times as heavy as necessary.

you can knock off about 85k if you gzip it.

Why not using tar.gzip, it's less than 85k.

Huh? What use would that be as a Content-Encoding?

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Toby A Inkster wrote:

Edwin van der Vaart wrote:

brucie wrote:

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> said:


Makes the page about 4 to 5 times as heavy as necessary.

you can knock off about 85k if you gzip it.

Why not using tar.gzip, it's less than 85k.


Huh? What use would that be as a Content-Encoding?

Wasn't it about the size of the page and not the Content-Ecoding?
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Edwin van der Vaart
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http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction

brucie wrote:

in post: <news:R8rsc.613$rc2.284@amstwist00
Edwin van der Vaart <picayunish2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> said:


Makes the page about 4 to 5 times as heavy as necessary.



you can knock off about 85k if you gzip it.



Why not using tar.gzip,


using a program name to identify encodings is icky poo and i was using
"gzip" as a generic term for compression as there are other compression
methods/encodings.


it's less than 85k.


the file is about 96k, if "gziped" (compressed using the gzip encoding)
the size of the file sent to the visitors computer is about 10k.

I see.
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Edwin van der Vaart
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http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction

Hywel <hyweljenkins (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

In article <da7e68e8.0405221316.446ee440 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, lawrence
says...
http://www.publicdomainsoftware.org/...hp?pageId=1962

What's all that text in the background for?

I don't know what the text in the background is for, but I assume one
of the people working on the site thought it would be a good idea.

I'll try to get up a gzipped version of the software this weekend.

Thanks.

"kchayka" <usenet (AT) c-net (DOT) us> wrote

: lawrence wrote:
: > Hywel <hyweljenkins (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

: >> In article <da7e68e8.0405221316.446ee440 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, lawrence
: >> says...
: >> > http://www.publicdomainsoftware.org/...hp?pageId=1962
: >>
: >> What's all that text in the background for?
: >
: > I don't know what the text in the background is for, but I assume one
: > of the people working on the site thought it would be a good idea.
:
: Search engine spamming, perhaps? That's a good way to get blacklisted.
:
: BTW, I remember the last time you posted here, many moons ago. Looks
: like y'all still believe semantic markup has no value. There are already
: a pile of CM systems out there that produce crappy code.
:
That may well be true, but with some better CMS the author has complete
access to HTML source. So the choice is up to the author whether to
produce crappy code or not.

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