Critique and Suggestions please

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote

Jamie Allison wrote:

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Suggestions:
1. place the images in a <span> and float the span. Start the span after
a couple of lines of the text, and within the paragraph.
Example at this page of mine:
http://countryrode.com/service/service.php

Notice there are no <table>s on the page.

I've took a look at your code and done mine the same with

h2>Person Name</h2
p
span class="imgright
img
/span

some text here
/p

My problem now is that when i do another one of these below but with
imgleft
instead of imgright the text title from the bottom one ends up to the
side
of the top picture.

I would like to have:
...
Any ideas what i am doing wrong here?

Looks as if you missed the: class="clear"
on the heading elements.

.clear {
clear: both;
}

excellent although it gives me a big white space towards the top of the page
which i think is due from having the navigation to the right up there.

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Jamie Allison wrote:

excellent although it gives me a big white space towards the top of the page
which i think is due from having the navigation to the right up there.

Try it without the "clear" on the first one, Patricia Allison.

I do not see the images. The path:
http://www.hsnsg.org.uk/images/meetus_rightpic01.jpg
returns your error page. They do show in Internet Explorer, but not in
Firefox or Opera.

Would be prudent to name the image files with the persons' names.
Ex: http://www.hsnsg.org.uk/images/patriciaallison.jpg

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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote

Jamie Allison wrote:

excellent although it gives me a big white space towards the top of the
page
which i think is due from having the navigation to the right up there.

Try it without the "clear" on the first one, Patricia Allison.

Thanks will give it a go.

I do not see the images. The path:
http://www.hsnsg.org.uk/images/meetus_rightpic01.jpg
returns your error page. They do show in Internet Explorer, but not in
Firefox or Opera.

I use mozilla and if i put the above link into the address bar i see the
image. It also works in IE. What was the actual error page you got? No
errors are shwing up in the error logs.

Would be prudent to name the image files with the persons' names.
Ex: http://www.hsnsg.org.uk/images/patriciaallison.jpg

yeah i am going to rename all the files but wanted to get it working first.

Thanks

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Jamie Allison wrote:

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
I do not see the images. The path:
http://www.hsnsg.org.uk/images/meetus_rightpic01.jpg
returns your error page. They do show in Internet Explorer, but not
in Firefox or Opera.

I use mozilla and if i put the above link into the address bar i see
the image. It also works in IE. What was the actual error page you
got? No errors are shwing up in the error logs.

Here is what I see when I try to look at the rightpic01 image directly.
http://k75s.home.att.net/show/hsnsg-patricia.jpg
I get this same error 403 in Firefox, Opera, and in IE6

This is the meetus page, in Firefox:
http://k75s.home.att.net/show/hsnsg.jpg

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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote

Jamie Allison wrote:

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
I do not see the images. The path:
http://www.hsnsg.org.uk/images/meetus_rightpic01.jpg
returns your error page. They do show in Internet Explorer, but not
in Firefox or Opera.

I use mozilla and if i put the above link into the address bar i see
the image. It also works in IE. What was the actual error page you
got? No errors are shwing up in the error logs.

Here is what I see when I try to look at the rightpic01 image directly.
http://k75s.home.att.net/show/hsnsg-patricia.jpg
I get this same error 403 in Firefox, Opera, and in IE6

Ooh yeah i have hotlink protection enabled so that people cant view the
images directly.

This is the meetus page, in Firefox:
http://k75s.home.att.net/show/hsnsg.jpg

It would appear that you have all images turned off on this page which is
why you dont see the peoples pictures? Am i right in thinking this? Also i
noticed why my Arrow alt tags are a bit annoying now no images are displayed
so i will change them.

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Jamie Allison wrote:

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
Jamie Allison wrote:

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
Here is what I see when I try to look at the rightpic01 image directly.
http://k75s.home.att.net/show/hsnsg-patricia.jpg
I get this same error 403 in Firefox, Opera, and in IE6

Ooh yeah i have hotlink protection enabled so that people cant view
the images directly.

Well, there's an explanation ... :-)

This is the meetus page, in Firefox:
http://k75s.home.att.net/show/hsnsg.jpg

It would appear that you have all images turned off on this page which
is why you dont see the peoples pictures? Am i right in thinking
this?

No. Look at the settings in the Firefox PrefBar. Images and Colors are
checked, meaning "show me". I can immediately go to another site and see
images.

Here is what I see in Opera 9.
http://k75s.home.att.net/show/hsnsg-opera.jpg

Also i noticed why my Arrow alt tags are a bit annoying now no
images are displayed so i will change them.

Right. For the first few seconds, I wondered why everyone's first name
was "Arrow"... (probably best to use: alt="" for the decorative
images)

Maybe there is some conflict with my pipe to the www and your hotlink
protection. How about if you turn that off for awhile (let me know when)
to see if it is the cause.

I see the images only in IE, and no other browser, including Firefox,
SeaMonkey, Mozilla, Opera, and even OffByOne shows no images at all.

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Ooh yeah i have hotlink protection enabled so that people cant view the
images directly.

So there's your problem. Turn of http referer and you don't get images. You
are obviously blocking images from anyone whose referer is not from those
pages?

Referer can be turned on by purpose, or by firewall etc. might block it etc.
so you are creating issue with your hotlinking protection. Instead, if there
is need, consider blacklisting urls etc. aproach in hotlink prevention
instead of blocking all but certain referer, or accept the fact that some
people won't see images.

Wÿrm wrote:

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Ooh yeah i have hotlink protection enabled so that people cant view
the images directly.

So there's your problem. Turn of http referer and you don't get
images. You are obviously blocking images from anyone whose referer
is not from those pages?

Aha! Precisely! Note in my screenshots that Firefox's "Send Referrer"
is not checked. Toggling that I see the images. Same for all my other
browsers, except IE where I don't bother. <lol>

Referer can be turned on by purpose, or by firewall etc. might block
it etc. so you are creating issue with your hotlinking protection.
Instead, if there is need, consider blacklisting urls etc. aproach in
hotlink prevention instead of blocking all but certain referer, or
accept the fact that some people won't see images.

Last place I worked before retirement, the corporate firewall also
stripped the http_referer ...

Regarding hotlinked images, I've never found a foolproof way to enable
the blocking without causing other problems.

Oh well, mystery solved.

I would still want to un-justify the text on that meetus page, and
perhaps insert the graphics' spans a couple of lines into the text so
that it begins above the photos rather than beside it.

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Regarding hotlinked images, I've never found a foolproof way to enable
the blocking without causing other problems.

Best way I've found, is to NOT to have "whitelist aproach" (like whitelist
only certain referer) but to HAVE blacklist aproach and really add blocked
referers when there's need. One could build system that would automatically
add some referers outside own site to blacklist, if hits from them would be
higher than some certain number.

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"Wÿrm" <nomailstodragon (AT) north (DOT) invalid> wrote

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Ooh yeah i have hotlink protection enabled so that people cant view the
images directly.

So there's your problem. Turn of http referer and you don't get images.
You are obviously blocking images from anyone whose referer is not from
those pages?

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't sure how it worked. I just found it
in my control panel settings for the hosting. Problem Fixed :-)

Referer can be turned on by purpose, or by firewall etc. might block it
etc. so you are creating issue with your hotlinking protection. Instead,
if there is need, consider blacklisting urls etc. aproach in hotlink
prevention instead of blocking all but certain referer, or accept the fact
that some people won't see images.