Critique school site

Please critique http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

I beleive there are many issues with the site and I would like your opinions
as well - to make a point to a collegue of mine.

Thank you for your time!

Helen Melon

"Samuël ML Lison" wrote in ...

lime wrote:
Please critique http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

I beleive there are many issues with the site and I would like your
opinions as well - to make a point to a collegue of mine.

Thank you for your time!

Too many photo's of the same student. Considering it's a school website,
not a good idea. It should show many more of the students and the
activities they do in the school.

I suggest the webmaster visit other local school websites to get a better
grasp.

A school website should be much like a community website, with plenty of
information available to parents and students alike.

I wasn't referring to the content - I was referring to a critique of "html"

lime wrote:

I wasn't referring to the content - I was referring to a critique of
"html"

Then why did you not say so in your original post?

It was built by someone using dreamweaver who is not experienced with the
product.

What more needs to be said? Except perhaps "more dreamweaver rubbish".

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Cheers
Richard.

lime wrote:

Please critique http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

I beleive there are many issues with the site and I would like your opinions
as well - to make a point to a collegue of mine.

Thank you for your time!

Helen Melon

Images of text is usually a bad idea, especially
like here where it is used for the address and
email address of the school.
Avoid doc and pdf files, use HTML instead.
"Our Best Always", what does that mean?


--
Inger Helene Falch-Jacobsen
http://home.online.no/~ingerfaj/

In message <2tp6edF2356apU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de>, lime <nuthin (AT) here (DOT) com>
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Please critique http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

I beleive there are many issues with the site and I would like your opinions
as well - to make a point to a collegue of mine.

Thank you for your time!

Helen Melon


A couple of things:

(a) *all* images *must* have alternative text specified. Try switching
off 'text down-loading' in your browser and see the results. Anything
you can't see -- other people can't see or hear.
(b) make sure that each individual page has a separate <title></title>
that accurately reflects the content of *that* page.
(c) Put a link as the first thing on each page that will allow someone
who needs to, to bypass the navigation and go straight to the content.
(The link can be 'invisible', if required.)
(d) Drop the <font></font> tags; setting the font face and size can be
done more flexibly using CSS.

regards.
--
Jake

lime wrote:

Please critique http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

I beleive there are many issues with the site and I would like your opinions
as well - to make a point to a collegue of mine.

Thank you for your time!

Helen Melon

99 validation errors! YIKES!
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...sp%3D%26ssp%3D

Don't use tables for layouts.
Use CSS for styles, not hundreds HTML attributes.
Make sure all links rollover in the same way.
Don't use such huge images.
Don't make thumbnails by resizing images with HTML.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:22:52 +1000, lime <nuthin (AT) here (DOT) com> wrote:

Please critique http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

I beleive there are many issues with the site and I would like your
opinions
as well - to make a point to a collegue of mine.

Thank you for your time!

Helen Melon

'Sat your real name? Cute.

I had this coffee table once. Looked really nice, but you couldn't
actually put anything on it because it was a real hack job. A friend
bought this new saw, a can of stain, and figured that made him a master
carpenter, as it happened. So I was stuck with this atrocious yet
good-looking table. I suppose it was "art", but it sure wasn't a table.

When I look at this site, I'm reminded of that. Someone got a copy of some
authoring software and thinks that makes him a web author. Like if I buy a
pack of red pens and a pointer, I'm suddenly a teacher. (Actually, I am,
but that's besides the point.)

The flaws in this site are too numerous to get into:

The contact info is an image, and no alt text is provided. Users who
cannot view images cannot contact the school.

Image maps are a bad idea - there's nothing here which requires it. It
could be done so much simpler - and again, without making image-less
browsers suffer. In facxt, in Opera, I don't see the headmaster's contact
info at all at the bottom, like the source suggests I should.

I know you want to hear about the code, but the images are generally too
heavy.

Ok, the background color is set without quotes. This isn't allowed, and
some browsers may (currently or in the future) rightly ignore this
setting. That'll screw things up. And this happens all over. The program
used is doing this and other stupid things which break the page. Sure,
looks nice. But it handles like crap.

I do think table layout is stupid, and this could be done without it, but
at least, when the tables are used, don't mess up the markup!

The Javascript on the page, this could be as easily accomplished with CSS
for more universal success. No reason at all to do this with script.

Basically, this site reeks of "hey, now I can make a webpage because I
have this sparkly new program" - which is to say, it's built on a lie. And
as I understand Aussie law, for a school you might have to make this
accessible to all users. The concept is OK, the execution is atrocious and
must be done over from scratch by someone competent.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:22:52 +1000, "lime" <nuthin (AT) here (DOT) com> wrote:

Please critique http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

I beleive there are many issues with the site and I would like your opinions
as well - to make a point to a collegue of mine.

This illustrates some of the problems that other people have alluded to:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/misc/deerparkps.png

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/

"rf" wrote in message...

lime wrote:

I wasn't referring to the content - I was referring to a critique of
"html"

Then why did you not say so in your original post?

Do I need to be so fucking specific in an alt.html.critique newsgroup?

"brucie" wrote in message ...

In alt.html.critique lime said:

http://www.deerparkps.vic.edu.au/

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...ps.vic.edu.au/

and especially for a school site:

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