Critique Request: Old GeoCities site

#21

http://www.geocities.com/conniesunday/

I think it's better..not as colorful or interesting, but less
confusing, perhaps.

Thanks again!!

JDS wrote:

Quote:

On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 10:59:12 -0700, lucy wrote:

That's a reasonable question. In the header it says:

!-- www.geocities.com/conniesunday/ - Connie's Violin Page - Online
resource for violinists and string teachers--

To quote you from earlier,

"You're kidding, right?

"

In the header? You do realize that that bit you snipped out deosn't
actually *show up* anywhere on the page, don't you?

I mean, why isn't that one line the first thing one sees when one goes to
the website? That would clear up a lot of ambiguity.

Example:

h1>Connie's Violin Page</h1
p
Online resource for violinists and string teachers
/p

presto! All cleared up!

Wow, I just took a look deeper into the HTML (and Javascript) "code" on
your site and it is really quite a mess.

Actually, "Connie" or "Lucy" or "renaissance", why did you post a request
for a critique in the first place? What were you hoping to gain from a
critique of your website? I'm not being facetious -- knowing your expected
gain will help a lot in directing the content of the critique.

later...

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| http://www.newtnotes.com
DJMBS | http://newtnotes.com/doctor-jeff-master-brainsurgeon/

#22

lucy wrote:

Quote:

http://www.geocities.com/conniesunday/

I think it's better..not as colorful or interesting, but less
confusing, perhaps.

Thanks again!!

JDS wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 10:59:12 -0700, lucy wrote:

That's a reasonable question. In the header it says:

!-- www.geocities.com/conniesunday/ - Connie's Violin Page - Online
resource for violinists and string teachers--
To quote you from earlier,

"You're kidding, right?

"

In the header? You do realize that that bit you snipped out deosn't
actually *show up* anywhere on the page, don't you?

I mean, why isn't that one line the first thing one sees when one goes to
the website? That would clear up a lot of ambiguity.

Example:

h1>Connie's Violin Page</h1
p
Online resource for violinists and string teachers
/p

presto! All cleared up!

Wow, I just took a look deeper into the HTML (and Javascript) "code" on
your site and it is really quite a mess.

Actually, "Connie" or "Lucy" or "renaissance", why did you post a request
for a critique in the first place? What were you hoping to gain from a
critique of your website? I'm not being facetious -- knowing your expected
gain will help a lot in directing the content of the critique.

later...

--
JDS | jeffrey (AT) go (DOT) away.com
| http://www.newtnotes.com
DJMBS | http://newtnotes.com/doctor-jeff-master-brainsurgeon/

Perhaps a link on each page to the "Home" page. It would be useful as
the "Home" link in the "Site Map" is not readily visible.

Your changes created a much neater interface.

--
Wayne
http://www.glenmeadows.us
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things
and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil
things, that takes religion.
—Steven Weinberg

#23

lucy wrote:

Quote:

It looks like it was done by a non-professional website creator in 1996 (which is probably clos to the truth, nu?).

Yes, JDS; that's exactly the case. You nailed it perfectly, as I
would have expected.

Coding practices have improved since then.

In what ways? (Is it easy to synopsize?) Using software is one way,
I'm sure.
It could, but a lot of the WYSIWYG software produces code which is not

much different too the code you already use.
You are correct in saying that the code will work OK in *a lot* of
browsers, but it is becomeing less prodictable for browser specific
code to work across all browsers.
Take a look at my website and you can see an example of more moddern
codeing.
I only do web design as a hobbie, but I am interested in making my
sites work in as many browsers as I can.
It's not perfect (design wise) but it comes quite close to working as
expected in more browsers, this is helped by having Valid XHTML in this
case, and useing Valid CSS.
It's suggested however that HTML be used instead of XHTML, but i'm not
going in to that debate again. Search this News Group for details.
The general idea, is that you use semantic Markup (HTML) to Markup your
pages. Then you use CSS to define how your website looks.
This means you can change the style of an entire website with the
modification of just one file.
Mind you, the content can stay as it was.
I hope this helps.
Take a look at http://www.w3.org
Also check out W3 Schools. All the info you could ever want to know is
right there.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.cjb.cc

#24

W3 Schools?

Chaddy2222 wrote:

Quote:

lucy wrote:
It looks like it was done by a non-professional website creator in 1996 (which is probably clos to the truth, nu?).

Yes, JDS; that's exactly the case. You nailed it perfectly, as I
would have expected.

Coding practices have improved since then.

In what ways? (Is it easy to synopsize?) Using software is one way,
I'm sure.
It could, but a lot of the WYSIWYG software produces code which is not
much different too the code you already use.
You are correct in saying that the code will work OK in *a lot* of
browsers, but it is becomeing less prodictable for browser specific
code to work across all browsers.
Take a look at my website and you can see an example of more moddern
codeing.
I only do web design as a hobbie, but I am interested in making my
sites work in as many browsers as I can.
It's not perfect (design wise) but it comes quite close to working as
expected in more browsers, this is helped by having Valid XHTML in this
case, and useing Valid CSS.
It's suggested however that HTML be used instead of XHTML, but i'm not
going in to that debate again. Search this News Group for details.
The general idea, is that you use semantic Markup (HTML) to Markup your
pages. Then you use CSS to define how your website looks.
This means you can change the style of an entire website with the
modification of just one file.
Mind you, the content can stay as it was.
I hope this helps.
Take a look at http://www.w3.org
Also check out W3 Schools. All the info you could ever want to know is
right there.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.cjb.cc

#25

wayne wrote:

Quote:

Perhaps a link on each page to the "Home" page. It would be useful as
the "Home" link in the "Site Map" is not readily visible.

Good idea; thank you (done). I guess you have a lot of people coming
into this forum, wanting validation--not html validation, but
validation in the sense of --they're so proud of their pages, and won't
make the recommended changes?

But I really appreciate all the recommendations.

#26

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:07:24 -0700, lucy wrote:

Quote:

I guess you have a lot of people coming
into this forum, wanting validation-

I think a lot do, at first, but are quickly and sensibly shown the error
of their ways. (Like yourself, maybe?) Some people (Luigi anyone?) never
seem to "get it" though.

Search alt.html for "Luigi Donatello Asero" and you may see what I mean.
He's so chronic it has become amusing. But he's nice, at least.

But most people are not like that.

Also, most people are nice, most of the time.

I'm starting to ramble now...

Most people, in most newsgroups, post reasonably pleasant, civil posts
most of the time. Most people also provide useful dialog most of the time.
It is just that the negative posts can be so negative, so irritating, so
ridiculous, so infuriating, so over the top that it is easy to develop the
perception that those are th norm. But they really aren't. blah blah blah

--
JDS | jeffrey (AT) go (DOT) away.com

Quote:

http://www.newtnotes.com
DJMBS | http://newtnotes.com/doctor-jeff-master-brainsurgeon/

#27

lucy wrote:

Quote:

wayne wrote:
snip

Good idea; thank you (done). I guess you have a lot of people coming
into this forum, wanting validation--not html validation, but
validation in the sense of --they're so proud of their pages, and won't
make the recommended changes?

But I really appreciate all the recommendations.

Only trying to help miss.

There may be some of what you noticed here, but I believe most are only
trying to justify what they believe is correct, and that is what they
started with. Most finally accept suggestions to improve their site,
even if it is not immediate.

I speak from experience as I too have an argumentative steak in me, but
do succumb when shown the error of my ways.

The fact that web designers have asked for help is a good start.

--
Wayne
http://www.glenmeadows.us
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things
and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil
things, that takes religion.
—Steven Weinberg