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Default Critique Please - 08-07-2005 , 08:35 PM






I've been trying to add more content and make the site w3c compatible.

Is it looking ok?

http://www.glenmeadows.com

The errors when checking on the w3 org site are from the Quotations page
javascript .

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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-07-2005 , 09:44 PM






wayne wrote:
Quote:
I've been trying to add more content and make the site w3c
compatible.

Is it looking ok?
It is a .. bit .. red. <g>

I like it, except for one thing. You have many buttons on the menu. I
would suggest that all buttons that go to external sites, most of
which appear not to be associated with your Association, to put those
on a separate page. Remove the buttons, and maybe make a page to
"Other favorite sites of ours" with conventional links and
descriptions in the content area of that page.

Opinion: the italic headers don't display as well as regular text would.

Quote:
The errors when checking on the w3 org site are from the Quotations
page javascript .
Didn't have JavaScript enabled...

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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-07-2005 , 10:23 PM



Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Quote:
wayne wrote:

I've been trying to add more content and make the site w3c
compatible.

Is it looking ok?


It is a .. bit .. red. <g
My bride would like it a little more subdued too, but does it catch your
eye? ;p

Quote:
http://www.glenmeadows.com


I like it, except for one thing. You have many buttons on the menu. I
would suggest that all buttons that go to external sites, most of which
appear not to be associated with your Association, to put those on a
separate page. Remove the buttons, and maybe make a page to "Other
favorite sites of ours" with conventional links and descriptions in the
content area of that page.

Thank you, I changed it as per your suggestion. I did have a second menu
on the right, but it looked like Mickey Mouse (ears) so I removed it.

Quote:
Opinion: the italic headers don't display as well as regular text would.
Thanks again, removed the italics. Just trying for some variety in the
text. Will look for another way to add variety while staying readable.

Quote:
The errors when checking on the w3 org site are from the Quotations
page javascript .


Didn't have JavaScript enabled...


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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-07-2005 , 10:42 PM



wayne wrote:
Quote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

wayne wrote:

I've been trying to add more content and make the site w3c
compatible.

Is it looking ok?

It is a .. bit .. red. <g

My bride would like it a little more subdued too, but does it catch
your eye? ;p
ABSOLUTELY!!!1!!

Quote:
http://www.glenmeadows.com

I like it, except for one thing. You have many buttons on the
menu. I would suggest that all buttons that go to external sites,
most of which appear not to be associated with your Association,
to put those on a separate page. Remove the buttons, and maybe
make a page to "Other favorite sites of ours" with conventional
links and descriptions in the content area of that page.

Thank you, I changed it as per your suggestion. I did have a second
menu on the right, but it looked like Mickey Mouse (ears) so I
removed it.
Aha, I see an "Other Links" page now. That'll do.

Quote:
Opinion: the italic headers don't display as well as regular text
would.

Thanks again, removed the italics. Just trying for some variety in
the text. Will look for another way to add variety while staying
readable.
Yes, I think it looks better with the non-italic font you now have.

Oh, discovered this: went to the Documents page, found a new menu of
various things. Picked ByLaws. When ByLaws content came up, the menu
changed back to the main menu, and not the Documents menu. If I wanted
to read about "Elections" I would have to go back to Documents,
instead of just clicking on "Election" after reading ByLaws. IOW, menu
of the various documents should stay in place.

Heh, was that clear?

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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-07-2005 , 11:45 PM



Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Quote:
wayne wrote:

My bride would like it a little more subdued too, but does it catch
your eye? ;p


ABSOLUTELY!!!1!!


Aha, I see an "Other Links" page now. That'll do.



Yes, I think it looks better with the non-italic font you now have.

Oh, discovered this: went to the Documents page, found a new menu of
various things. Picked ByLaws. When ByLaws content came up, the menu
changed back to the main menu, and not the Documents menu. If I wanted
to read about "Elections" I would have to go back to Documents, instead
of just clicking on "Election" after reading ByLaws. IOW, menu of the
various documents should stay in place.
Yes, I've been a little lazy on that. I created another menu and placed
it on those pages. While I was at it, some of the other documents
weren't listed there either. Some of the forms are now on the main menu
and the documents sub menu. I want them available to the homeowners
without them having to search very hard. Is this acceptable, or is the
main menu still too long?

Quote:
Heh, was that clear?

Perfectly! <bg>

Thanks for your help!


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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-08-2005 , 10:39 AM



wayne wrote:
Quote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Oh, discovered this: went to the Documents page, found a new
menu of various things. Picked ByLaws. When ByLaws content came
up, the menu changed back to the main menu, and not the Documents
menu. If I wanted to read about "Elections" I would have to go
back to Documents, instead of just clicking on "Election" after
reading ByLaws. IOW, menu of the various documents should stay in
place.

Yes, I've been a little lazy on that. I created another menu and
placed it on those pages. While I was at it, some of the other
documents weren't listed there either. Some of the forms are now on
the main menu and the documents sub menu. I want them available to
the homeowners without them having to search very hard. Is this
acceptable, or is the main menu still too long?
I see that you've corrected the Document menu; that's good.

What forms were you referencing? The Google Search box? That's the
only one I see.

Re length of menu: I guess it's acceptable now, though the Recipes
also seems to be not related to the Association.

Were you going to remove the form defaults on Suggestions? Visitors
who mouse between form elements rather than use the tab key will have
to first delete your "Your name?" content. If you don't, expect
entries such as "Your name? Jane Doe" ...

On the "5. None of the above" I would change that to "5. Other"

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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-08-2005 , 03:24 PM



In message <ENxJe.2540$Wi6.1742 (AT) newsread2 (DOT) news.pas.earthlink.net>, wayne
<wdh (AT) swbell (DOT) net> writes
Quote:
I've been trying to add more content and make the site w3c compatible.

Is it looking ok?

http://www.glenmeadows.com

The errors when checking on the w3 org site are from the
Quotations page javascript .

Regards,
Just a few thoughts:

Opening page:
=========

<a href="http://www.glenmeadows.com/" title="Home">Home</a>
<a href="/arcform.shtml" title="Architectrial change submission
form">ARC Form</a>
<a href="/contacts.shtml" title="Contacts">Contacts</a>

etc. etc.

{ Put some dividers between entries in the menu e.g. "|";
alternatively mark the links up as a list }

{question: why comment-out the 'skip-navigation' link? }

.................................................. ........................
.............................


<h2>La Porte Community Library<br />
A Harris County Public Library<br />
600 S. Broadway<br />
La Porte, Texas 77571</h2>

{I'd suggest that only the first line is the header. Also, put some
punctuation at the end of each line e.g. commas and full-stop.}
.................................................. ........................
.............................


<p>Our special events include:<br/>
Easter egg Hunt<br/>
Before School picnic<br/>
Christmas hayride<br/>
Welcoming committee<br/>
Yard of the Month<br/>
</p>

{This would be better marked up as a list. Alternatively, place some
punctuation at the end of each line to prevent the items running into
each other.}

.................................................. ........................
.............................

<table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding =5 align=CENTER>
<tr>
<td>New Year's Day</td>
<td>1st Day in January</td>
<td>Saturday,
January 01, 2005</td>
</tr>

{ (a) insert a 'summary' for those UAs that can use it.
(b) insert some column headers (you can make these 'invisible'
through CSS if you need to) to assist navigation. If you don't, many
non-visual UAs will assume that the first entries are column headers }

.................................................. ........................
.............................

Articles of Inc. page
============

{ Various typos (mainly missing spaces) -- applies to other pages --
suggest a trip through a spell-checker might be useful. }


.................................................. ........................
.............................

DCCR's 4a page
==========

W I T N E S S E T H:

{ Code this as WITNESSETH: and use CSS to space the letters in the word
}

ELECTION page
==========

<h5>by: Jeffrey A. Goldberg</h5>

{ Is this really a heading? and why level 5? }

.................................................. ........................
.............................

1. Notice
2. Registration & Quorum Requirements
etc.

{ Are these not list items? ditto for other lists further down the
page.}

.................................................. ........................
.............................

regards.

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wayne
 
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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-08-2005 , 09:59 PM



Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Quote:
wayne wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


I see that you've corrected the Document menu; that's good.

What forms were you referencing? The Google Search box? That's the only
one I see.

Re length of menu: I guess it's acceptable now, though the Recipes also
seems to be not related to the Association.

Were you going to remove the form defaults on Suggestions? Visitors who
mouse between form elements rather than use the tab key will have to
first delete your "Your name?" content. If you don't, expect entries
such as "Your name? Jane Doe" ...

On the "5. None of the above" I would change that to "5. Other"

Thanks again for your time and help. There are several forms available,
one is "Management" which is for sending email to the management company
(without exposing their email address), YOM for submitting candidates
for yard of the month, "Newsletter" for submitting entries to the
community newsletter, etc. Perhaps I need a page with just forms on it,
but I want them to be readily available. What is your suggestion?

I did remove the defaults from the suggestions form, although the
default at least insured there would be some entry in each field

Also changed the "None of the above" to "Other".

Still learning!

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wayne
 
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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-08-2005 , 10:11 PM



jake wrote:
Quote:
Just a few thoughts:

Opening page:
=========

a href="http://www.glenmeadows.com/" title="Home">Home</a
a href="/arcform.shtml" title="Architectrial change submission
form">ARC Form</a
a href="/contacts.shtml" title="Contacts">Contacts</a

etc. etc.

{ Put some dividers between entries in the menu e.g. "|";
alternatively mark the links up as a list }

I assume you have css disabled or have a device that does not use it? I
tried placing | between the menu items, but that created an extra space
in the "button" on the graphical interface and an inappropriate line.

I appreciate your help and will spend some time changing the items to
<li> entries.

Quote:
{question: why comment-out the 'skip-navigation' link? }
Not sure how to implement just yet. Where should it point?

Quote:
.................................................. .......................
............................


h2>La Porte Community Library<br /
A Harris County Public Library<br /
600 S. Broadway<br /
La Porte, Texas 77571</h2

{I'd suggest that only the first line is the header. Also, put some
punctuation at the end of each line e.g. commas and full-stop.}
This is a document from the public library that is inserted by cgi. I
haven't looked to closely at formatting it. Will spend some time this week.

Quote:
.................................................. .......................
............................


p>Our special events include:<br/
Easter egg Hunt<br/
Before School picnic<br/
Christmas hayride<br/
Welcoming committee<br/
Yard of the Month<br/
/p

{This would be better marked up as a list. Alternatively, place some
punctuation at the end of each line to prevent the items running into
each other.}

Will change to a list.

Quote:
.................................................. .......................
............................

table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding =5 align=CENTER
tr
td>New Year's Day</td
td>1st Day in January</td
td>Saturday,
January 01, 2005</td
/tr

{ (a) insert a 'summary' for those UAs that can use it.
(b) insert some column headers (you can make these 'invisible'
through CSS if you need to) to assist navigation. If you don't, many
non-visual UAs will assume that the first entries are column headers }

.................................................. .......................
............................

Articles of Inc. page
============

{ Various typos (mainly missing spaces) -- applies to other pages --
suggest a trip through a spell-checker might be useful. }


These documents were on the site when I started maintaining it and I
never noticed the extra spaces between the letters in WITNESSETH! The
original document must have been courier and scanned to have that
effect. Removed the extra spaces and ran a spell check on the rest of
the documents. The spell checker never caught any missing spaces or
extra ones either.

Quote:
.................................................. .......................
............................

DCCR's 4a page
==========

W I T N E S S E T H:

{ Code this as WITNESSETH: and use CSS to space the letters in the word
}

ELECTION page
==========

h5>by: Jeffrey A. Goldberg</h5

{ Is this really a heading? and why level 5? }

.................................................. .......................
............................

1. Notice
2. Registration & Quorum Requirements
etc.

{ Are these not list items? ditto for other lists further down the
page.}

Good points, thank you for bringing them to my attention. Changed as per
your suggestion.

Quote:
.................................................. .......................
............................

regards.

Thanks again for taking the time to look at the site.

Regards,
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Default Re: Critique Please - 08-08-2005 , 11:01 PM



wayne wrote:
Quote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

wayne wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

I see that you've corrected the Document menu; that's good.

What forms were you referencing? The Google Search box? That's
the only one I see.

Were you going to remove the form defaults on Suggestions?
Visitors who mouse between form elements rather than use the tab
key will have to first delete your "Your name?" content. If you
don't, expect entries such as "Your name? Jane Doe" ...

On the "5. None of the above" I would change that to "5. Other"

Thanks again for your time and help. There are several forms
available, one is "Management" which is for sending email to the
management company (without exposing their email address), YOM for
submitting candidates for yard of the month, "Newsletter" for
submitting entries to the community newsletter, etc. Perhaps I need
a page with just forms on it, but I want them to be readily
available. What is your suggestion?
Oh then I misunderstood. I took your comment to mean several forms on
that one page. Sorry. Well, if the forms are specific to the topic of
the page, it should be alright to leave them as is.

Or ... have each of those pages make a note about the "Contact Us"
form page, and have that one form use a dropdown with the various
choices - Management, Newsletter, etc. I do a couple sites that way.

Quote:
I did remove the defaults from the suggestions form, although the
default at least insured there would be some entry in each field

Also changed the "None of the above" to "Other".

Still learning!
We all are. <g>

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