Critique if Design, Feel and Innovation (if any)...

On Nov 4, 11:53*pm, "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohn... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On 2009-11-04, justaddice wrote:
On Nov 4, 4:47?pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
In article
b12676e9-f17c-445c-be12-96b57da91... (AT) m7g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com>,

?justaddice <daniel.dow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 3:22?pm, "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
justaddice wrote:
Yes I'm sorry, I posted this quite late last night (not a very good
idea).

The URL should be: ?http://www.legacyartistes.com

Totally blank, black page, with several browsers.

Really? Do you have HTML & JS & Flash enabled?

I have and it was so slow that my experience was very similar to rf's.I
got fed up of seeing basically nothing but arty logo-ish gold lettering
and lines. In a movie, there are some creative credit introductions,
sure. But the ones that give me the most confidence in what they are an
entre for are the plainest ones - so we get down to business without
messing about.

You want a critique? Don't do this, don't go there at all.

The intro is only about 20 seconds, and this allows time for the
'large' photos to load. If it was HTML you'd still need to wait. At
least there's something to watch while is loading in Flash.

* *If the HTML page is well designed, there will be something to read
* *even before the images are loaded.

* *Forcing the viewer to wait 20 seconds for something that can be
* *read in less than one second is frustrating.

But thanks for your comments all the same, they are very welcomed.

When you say its 'slow', are you getting poor performance (obvious
frame skips/freezes), or is it just the actual animation that you feel
is too slow?

* *"Molasses in January."

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Indeed, but as I've said, its not about the raw text, its about the
feeling that is being conveyed. I'll be adding some suitable, smooth
intro music which might completely change the perception of the intro
for you.

Anyway, thank you.

In article
<1d39219f-e902-451e-9441-812ccd1a6e78 (AT) u36g2000prn (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
justaddice <daniel.downes (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Nov 4, 11:53Â*pm, "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohn... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Â* Â*"Molasses in January."

Indeed, but as I've said, its not about the raw text, its about the
feeling that is being conveyed. I'll be adding some suitable, smooth
intro music which might completely change the perception of the intro
for you.

I can't think of a more delicious misunderstanding of what you are being
told than this. You are going further in the opposite direction to what
is wise, you will add music to slow things down even further! You might
as well make sure it is embedded to play and override any attempts by
upstart users brazen enough to not want this...

--
dorayme

On 2009-11-05, justaddice wrote:

On Nov 4, 11:53?pm, "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohn... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On 2009-11-04, justaddice wrote:
On Nov 4, 4:47?pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
In article
b12676e9-f17c-445c-be12-96b57da91... (AT) m7g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com>,

?justaddice <daniel.dow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 3:22?pm, "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
justaddice wrote:
Yes I'm sorry, I posted this quite late last night (not a very good
idea).

The URL should be: ?http://www.legacyartistes.com

Totally blank, black page, with several browsers.

Really? Do you have HTML & JS & Flash enabled?

I have and it was so slow that my experience was very similar to rf's. I
got fed up of seeing basically nothing but arty logo-ish gold lettering
and lines. In a movie, there are some creative credit introductions,
sure. But the ones that give me the most confidence in what they are an
entre for are the plainest ones - so we get down to business without
messing about.

You want a critique? Don't do this, don't go there at all.

The intro is only about 20 seconds, and this allows time for the
'large' photos to load. If it was HTML you'd still need to wait. At
least there's something to watch while is loading in Flash.

? ?If the HTML page is well designed, there will be something to read
? ?even before the images are loaded.

? ?Forcing the viewer to wait 20 seconds for something that can be
? ?read in less than one second is frustrating.

But thanks for your comments all the same, they are very welcomed.

When you say its 'slow', are you getting poor performance (obvious
frame skips/freezes), or is it just the actual animation that you feel
is too slow?

? ?"Molasses in January."

Indeed, but as I've said, its not about the raw text, its about the
feeling that is being conveyed.

You want your viewers to feel bored, etc.???

I'll be adding some suitable, smooth intro music which might
completely change the perception of the intro for you.

Indeed. From bored to annoyed.

--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfajohnson.com>
Author: =======================
Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress)
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)

On Nov 5, 9:09*am, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

In article
1d39219f-e902-451e-9441-812ccd1a6... (AT) u36g2000prn (DOT) googlegroups.com>,

*justaddice <daniel.dow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 11:53*pm, "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohn... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
* *"Molasses in January."
Indeed, but as I've said, its not about the raw text, its about the
feeling that is being conveyed. I'll be adding some suitable, smooth
intro music which might completely change the perception of the intro
for you.

I can't think of a more delicious misunderstanding of what you are being
told than this. You are going further in the opposite direction to what
is wise, you will add music to slow things down even further! You might
as well make sure it is embedded to play and override any attempts by
upstart users brazen enough to not want this...

--
dorayme

Adding music will actually make the intro run quicker! If you don't
understand this, then this site is not for you.

Agreed, the intro should not be shown after 1 or 2 times of loading
the site.

Cheers.

justaddice wrote:

On Nov 5, 9:09 am, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
In article
1d39219f-e902-451e-9441-812ccd1a6... (AT) u36g2000prn (DOT) googlegroups.com>,

justaddice <daniel.dow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 11:53 pm, "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohn... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:
"Molasses in January."
Indeed, but as I've said, its not about the raw text, its about the
feeling that is being conveyed. I'll be adding some suitable, smooth
intro music which might completely change the perception of the
intro for you.

I can't think of a more delicious misunderstanding of what you are
being told than this. You are going further in the opposite
direction to what is wise, you will add music to slow things down
even further! You might as well make sure it is embedded to play and
override any attempts by upstart users brazen enough to not want
this...

--
dorayme


Adding music will actually make the intro run quicker!

Why would you possibly think this?

What possible technological reason do you have to support that adding music
to this web page will make the flash run quicker?

If anything it might just make your potential viewer leave the site sooner.
Why *INFLICT* music on somebody that may not be expecting it. What if
somebody open your page in a public library? What if they open it whilst
listening the their favourite Bach concerto? What if they are sneaking
stealthily into it wilst at work? A bloody stupid thing to do, as has been
pointed out in these newsgroups over and over again for many many years.

If you don't
understand this, then this site is not for you.

This is bleedingly obvious. It's not for me either. Or for those eighteen
other people over there --> that have posted to this thead.

Agreed, the intro should not be shown after 1 or 2 times of loading
the site.

Once. Perhaps. Preferably not. Twice? Simply stupid.

BTW I still get a totally black page.

"justaddice" <daniel.downes (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Nov 4, 6:42 pm, "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:

justaddice wrote:

Anyway... my initial critique request was about the design, and the
only person to even mention this was basilisk so far.. but he didn't
really go into any detail.

I do like the color scheme and layout, but any positives about the design
are ruined by the sites slow and jerky loading.

The best design in the world doesn't make the grade if it isn't implemented
in a way
that appeals to your users.

Just for hoots, I timed the loading of your page to the point of the menu
settling into view, it took 90 seconds, this is a very long time in an
instant world.
Is this what you want?

The irony is that you are going to bore the very people that you
would like to sell entertainment to.
If I were looking to book an act and went to your site, my first thought
would be that my time was being wasted already and I haven't even
contacted anybody yet, time to find someone more accommodating.

I'm no expert, but most of the others here are and they speak the
truth.

basilisk