Critique concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblog/

Hi. I'm working on a Movable-Type based site. I need input especially from
people using Mac browsers to be sure everything renders properly. It beats
going out and buying my own Powerbook! ;-)

I'm also having problems with the sidebar bullet lists. There seems to be
much more left padding on them in Firefox than in Avant, IE6 or Opera. Any
suggestions for correcting this are welcome.

Note that not all the links are live. Thanks for any help.

JM Mueller

Site (not live):
http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblogs

CORRECT Site URL (not live):

http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblog


Sorry about the typo!

JM Mueller

In article <ffl6f.8880$5e4.864 (AT) tornado (DOT) texas.rr.com>,
"Web Jones" <webjones (AT) webjones (DOT) org> wrote:

Hi. I'm working on a Movable-Type based site. I need input especially from
people using Mac browsers to be sure everything renders properly. It beats
going out and buying my own Powerbook! ;-)

I'm also having problems with the sidebar bullet lists. There seems to be
much more left padding on them in Firefox than in Avant, IE6 or Opera. Any
suggestions for correcting this are welcome.

It looks fine in Safari, although the text is smaller than I'd like with
my dimming eyes. Increasing text size works. It looks even better in
Firefox, although that may be because of my inconsistency in text sizes
between browsers. It looks pretty much like Safari in Opera. And it
works in Lynx. All on a Mac.
I have IE5 on OS9 available but I haven't checked and you don't want to
know. But don't worry about that.
Oh, the bullet lists. Yep, Opera is nearly flush whereas my other
browsers show indentation. Big Deal.
How many users are going to visit your site with two browsers and make
comments regarding the size of the indentation on the list. None, I'd
expect.

leo

--
<http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>

"Leonard Blaisdell" <leo (AT) greatbasin (DOT) com> wrote

It looks fine in Safari, although the text is smaller than I'd like with
my dimming eyes. Increasing text size works. It looks even better in
Firefox, although that may be because of my inconsistency in text sizes
between browsers. It looks pretty much like Safari in Opera. And it
works in Lynx. All on a Mac.
Leonard, my client, who also uses a Mac and browsers with Safari, said that

his text boxes are BLUE and I see white (but I am using IE and Firefox on
Windoze). I wonder what he meant. The blue would definitely clash with the
green of the site. I just want to be sure that blue is not there; it's
nowhere in my stylesheet.

Could there be a setting in Safari that he needs to tweak so that the text
boxes aren't defaulting to blue?

i> How many users are going to visit your site with two browsers and make

comments regarding the size of the indentation on the list. None, I'd
expect.

Good point. Like my dad always told me, "you're majoring in the minors."
Thanks for letting me off the hook on that one!

And thanks for your help!

Joni

"kchayka" <usenet (AT) c-net (DOT) us> wrote

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

In article <ffl6f.8880$5e4.864 (AT) tornado (DOT) texas.rr.com>,
"Web Jones" <webjones (AT) webjones (DOT) org> wrote:

http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblog

Some browsers use padding-left for list indents, some use margin-left or
a combination. If you want consistent results across browsers, you have
to set both properties on both the ul and li elements.

I completely forgot about that! {{slaps forehead}}
Thanks!!!

Joni

Web Jones wrote:

Hi. I'm working on a Movable-Type based site. I need input especially from
people using Mac browsers

Site (not live):
http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblogs

Sorry, no Mac browser here. Looks fine in the Safari-ralated Konqueror
on Slackware, though. Generally, if you moved to a strict doctype and
got rid of deprecated markup, moving all display control to CSS, you
would be more assured of an acceptable result on a wider selection of
browsers. It'd also be a hell of a lot easier to keep up.

Also, don't set such a small font size (100% is preferable).

Nice clean look to it.

"mbstevens" <NOXwebmasterx (AT) xmbstevensx (DOT) com> wrote

Web Jones wrote:
Hi. I'm working on a Movable-Type based site. I need input especially
from people using Mac browsers Site (not live):
http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblogs

Oops, MB. I hope you were looking at the corrected URL:
http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblog/

The other URL goes to the 404 page of my placeholder site. It doesn't
validate. (Someday, when I get time. The actual correct URL above does
validate as XHTML. Sorry about that; I posted the corrected URL under my
original request yesterday.

Joni

Web Jones wrote:

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Web Jones wrote:

Hi. I'm working on a Movable-Type based site. I need input especially
from people using Mac browsers Site (not live):
http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblogs


Oops, MB. I hope you were looking at the corrected URL:
http://concretepark.mytestbed.com/weblog/

The other URL goes to the 404 page of my placeholder site. It doesn't
validate. (Someday, when I get time. The actual correct URL above does
validate as XHTML. Sorry about that; I posted the corrected URL under my
original request yesterday.

Joni


Still looks good on Konqueror. Comments about strict doctype still

hold, as do comments about setting the font too small. The markup
looks cleaner. For your own clarity -- an ounce of indentation is worth
a pound of explanatory labels.

In article <jTy6f.10167$5e4.7255 (AT) tornado (DOT) texas.rr.com>,
"Web Jones" <webjones (AT) webjones (DOT) org> wrote:

Leonard, my client, who also uses a Mac and browsers with Safari, said that
his text boxes are BLUE and I see white (but I am using IE and Firefox on
Windoze). I wonder what he meant. The blue would definitely clash with the
green of the site. I just want to be sure that blue is not there; it's
nowhere in my stylesheet.

Could there be a setting in Safari that he needs to tweak so that the text
boxes aren't defaulting to blue?

The only blue I see on the entire page is for the logo below the Search.
AFIK I'm using Safari pretty much 'out of the box'. Maybe he's operating
on his own stylesheet which can be set in the advanced preferences, but
if he is, he'd know that :-)
My Safari is version 1.3.1. Maybe older versions have the problem. I'm
not even sure what he's talking about.

leo

--
<http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>

"kchayka" <usenet (AT) c-net (DOT) us> wrote

Some browsers use padding-left for list indents, some use margin-left or
a combination. If you want consistent results across browsers, you have
to set both properties on both the ul and li elements.

I declared padding: 0 on the UL class and it works like a charm in all the

browsers I have access to!

Thanks much!

Joni