Critique (alz)

Hello

Please have a look at:
http://www.alz-maschinen.ch/vorschlag1

How could I improve the HTML?
CSS?
What else?

Should the logo be a link to the index-page?

(Some forms are still missing.)

Thanks
chlori

chlori wrote:

Hello

Please have a look at:
http://www.alz-maschinen.ch/vorschlag1

How could I improve the HTML?
An image is missing its alt attribute.

(You didn't validate before posting? http://validator.w3.org)
Some lines ending <br /> *could* be put into <ul><li>......</ul>
to avoid this. (You can choose not to display bullets in
lists.) But IMO it's not really necessary. It's a matter of opinion
whether these are actually lists. <pre> is another possibility.

CSS?

What else?

Form email instead of mailto link.

Should the logo be a link to the index-page?
Don't think so.

Generally looks good.
--
mbstevens
http://www.mbstevens.com

NOXwebmasterx (AT) xmbstevensx (DOT) com schrieb am 04.11.2004 15:07:

Some lines ending <br /> *could* be put into <ul><li>......</ul
to avoid this.

Why is ending lines with <br /> not good?

(You can choose not to display bullets in
lists.) But IMO it's not really necessary. It's a matter of opinion
whether these are actually lists. <pre> is another possibility.

Is a post address a list? What would be the best HTML
for an address like this:

ALZ
A. + L. Zimmermann Maschinen + Co.
Grundweg 1
CH-8917 Oberlunkhofen

Telefon 111 111 11 11
Telefax 222 222 22 22

<ul>? <pre>? <p>? why?

What else?

Form email instead of mailto link.

I'll change that, thanks.

chlori

chlori wrote:

Why is ending lines with <br /> not good?

More often a taste thing than a real mistake. Their use *usually*
indicates that something else would be better. IMO.

Is a post address a list?

No.

What would be the best HTML
for an address like this:

ALZ
A. + L. Zimmermann Maschinen + Co.
Grundweg 1
CH-8917 Oberlunkhofen

Telefon 111 111 11 11
Telefax 222 222 22 22

ul>? <pre>? <p>? why?

A styled <pre> would be my choice for the whole area.
Because the whole area needs forced line breaks throughout.
A lot cleaner markup would result, and someone would have to have a very
narrow browser window to cause it to make a horizontal scroll bar appear
(not a good thing, usually).

If just doing the two phone numbers, it would be a
toss up between <pre> and <ul>. It also depends on how
*you* think of them.

NOXwebmasterx (AT) xmbstevensx (DOT) com wrote:

Form email instead of mailto link.

Form in addition to a valid email address is best.

Neal schrieb am 04.11.2004 17:25:

Form in addition to a valid email address is best.

But is there a way to stop spam without beeing
"unfriendly" to visitors?

chlori

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:40:29 +0100, chlori <invalid (AT) arto (DOT) ch> wrote:

Neal schrieb am 04.11.2004 17:25:
Form in addition to a valid email address is best.

But is there a way to stop spam without beeing "unfriendly" to visitors?

Local spamblocking. Do it on the receiving end.

Email from my site's form has a specific subject string which is
pre-approved. Emails to the address are mixed with spam, but I generally
can split it up.

We really don't get a LOT of spam - 10 a day at most. Legitimate emails
are never lost.

chlori wrote:

Neal schrieb am 04.11.2004 17:25:
Form in addition to a valid email address is best.

But is there a way to stop spam without beeing
"unfriendly" to visitors?

I never worried that much about spam -- a form is just more reliable.
Neal is right; it certainly doesn't hurt to have the redundancy of one,
though, for people who prefer it.

Neal schrieb am 04.11.2004 17:48:

Email from my site's form has a specific subject string which is
pre-approved.

Wouldn't it make sense to let the user add a subject
himself? Useful for the site owner (not me) and the user?

Or do you add some kind of 'prefix' to the subject
line. Something like:
"Site Blah Form - [users subject]"

Does anyone have links to sites about "good forms"?

chlori

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:01:19 +0100, chlori <invalid (AT) arto (DOT) ch> wrote:

Neal schrieb am 04.11.2004 17:48:
Email from my site's form has a specific subject string which is
pre-approved.

Wouldn't it make sense to let the user add a subject himself? Useful for
the site owner (not me) and the user?

Or do you add some kind of 'prefix' to the subject line. Something like:
"Site Blah Form - [users subject]"

That's more like it. Actually, on the form I use separate subjects to sort
the emails. There are other ways to do that too.

Does anyone have links to sites about "good forms"?

My advice is to look at a lot of site's forms and see what users are
accustomed to.

Just a few thoughts. Use the label element. Organize the items logically.

I use NMS Formmail as my email script, it's quite good.