Cleaned-up site, critique welcome

I recently finished cleaning up the site (not yet updated) that runs at
http://www.bonegames.com/
It's not run by me and I have nothing to do with those original pages or
their design or content.
My redone pages are at http://users.utu.fi/athein/bonegames/
Any comments before those pages are officially published are welcome.

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Ari
http://users.utu.fi/athein/

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Ari Heino <atXXXheino (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
writing in news:h167k5$16hn$1 (AT) bowmore (DOT) utu.fi:

I recently finished cleaning up the site (not yet updated) that runs at
http://www.bonegames.com/
It's not run by me and I have nothing to do with those original pages or
their design or content.
My redone pages are at http://users.utu.fi/athein/bonegames/
Any comments before those pages are officially published are welcome.

Looks much better, kudos!

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Arbpen Web Site Design Services
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share

Ari Heino wrote:

My redone pages are at http://users.utu.fi/athein/bonegames/
Any comments before those pages are officially published are welcome.

Ari,

I am hard-pressed to find anything to complain about. Maybe a contact
form, assuming the owners don't mind getting contacted (I see the e-mail
address pieces in the footer waiting for manual assembly). Also maybe
drop the "Valid HTML" link, since most visitors won't care. The "Valid
CSS" link isn't on every page anyway, as the footers differ.

The content could use an editor who understands apostrophes and hyphens,
but I realize that's got nothing to do with you.

Otherwise: The new site has a clean, bright look; fluid design; allows
resizing of text and viewport; valid markup and CSS (5 warnings); works
without (or with) CSS or JS; low-load; good contrast; intersting.

Exemplary!

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John

On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:32:21 +0300, Ari Heino writ:

I recently finished cleaning up the site (not yet updated) that runs at
http://www.bonegames.com/
It's not run by me and I have nothing to do with those original pages or
their design or content.
My redone pages are at http://users.utu.fi/athein/bonegames/ Any
comments before those pages are officially published are welcome.

http://i42.tinypic.com/211tcaq.jpg

Opera 10 beta and FF 3 on Mandriva linux.

Not a big deal, but you might want to even-up that image with the
highlighted navigation (or not). ;-)

I think it looks really nice, certainly a huge improvement. I wish I had
your eye.

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freemont kirjoitti seuraavasti:

Not a big deal, but you might want to even-up that image with the
highlighted navigation (or not). ;-)

Thanks for the tip. The ul had a standard left margin, but now it's
fixed. It's certainly better that way.
The image's visible part is not exactly as wide as the navigation div
itself, but hopefully that's not so bad. That's easily fixed, though, so
I'll think about it.

I think it looks really nice, certainly a huge improvement. I wish I had
your eye.

Thanks! I hope it will take me somewhere in the future.

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Ari
http://users.utu.fi/athein/

Ari Heino kirjoitti seuraavasti:

The image's visible part is not exactly as wide as the navigation div
itself, but hopefully that's not so bad. That's easily fixed, though, so
I'll think about it.

Done
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Ari
http://users.utu.fi/athein/

John Hosking kirjoitti seuraavasti:

Also maybe
drop the "Valid HTML" link, since most visitors won't care. The "Valid
CSS" link isn't on every page anyway, as the footers differ.

They are temporary indeed, just to show me (and the owner) that I've
tried to keep things valid. CSS is the same for every page, so I didn't
see it wise to repeat on every page.

The content could use an editor who understands apostrophes and hyphens,
but I realize that's got nothing to do with you.

Hmm, it does, because I've done that part
Have I got it all wrong? I've tried to use just the right symbols, but I
guess I didn't succeed? Is it foolish to play with &rsquo;s etc.? Is
there a good place to study more about it? I've read some.

valid markup and CSS (5 warnings)

Which validator did you use? W3C warns only about the floated elements
without widths.
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Ari
http://users.utu.fi/athein/

In article <h18mtd$1sbt$1 (AT) bowmore (DOT) utu.fi>,
Ari Heino <atXXXheino (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

valid markup and CSS (5 warnings)

Which validator did you use? W3C warns only about the floated elements
without widths.

W3C has 5 warnings and 3 of them are about width, the other two about
setting colours and backgrounds.

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dorayme

dorayme kirjoitti seuraavasti:

W3C has 5 warnings and 3 of them are about width, the other two about
setting colours and backgrounds.

Ok, I wonder why I missed them...

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Ari
http://users.utu.fi/athein/

Ari Heino wrote:

John Hosking kirjoitti seuraavasti:


The content could use an editor who understands apostrophes and
hyphens, but I realize that's got nothing to do with you.

Hmm, it does, because I've done that part
Have I got it all wrong? I've tried to use just the right symbols, but I
guess I didn't succeed? Is it foolish to play with &rsquo;s etc.? Is
there a good place to study more about it? I've read some.

I'm not talking about their encoding on a Web page; I'm referring to
their usage in English. I see content in the new sites pages that is
duplicated in the old site and in the PDFs so I assumed it was just a
case of the site's owners not being solid with hyphens and apostrophes
(which is the case for so many others, even native English speakers).

For an example, I saw (on the first page I clicked to, pure coincidence)
"LNL—Laplace, Newton & Lagrange—is a game of ship to ship combat in
outer space."

Now, you've used em-dashes here, which don't show up in my Usenet copy,
but which I find acceptable. I believe I would have used an en-dash, but
I also believe I would have been incorrect to do so, based on my quick
trip to the Web for research (or really, "research"). In any case I
would have added spaces around the dashes, as the unspaced em-dashes
just look wrong to me. These things are discussed in an interesting
Wikipedia article at
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash#En_dash_versus_em_dash>. I know WP
isn't Holy Scripture, but that article does point to various references.

Now that I think even more about it, my preference would be to rewrite
that opening as "Laplace, Newton & Lagrange (LNL) is a game..." The
dashes aren't necessary in the first place. Just MHO.

But none of that is what I was talking about. I was whining about the
lack of hyphens in "ship to ship combat" in the new lnl.html, the old
lnl.html, as well as the lnl.pdf file.

You said in your OP that "I have nothing to do with those original pages
or their design or content," so I assumed it's the owners' mistake.

I'm sure I saw some use (or lack) of an apostrophe that I didn't like
but now that I'm looking for it, I can't find any such thing.

valid markup and CSS (5 warnings)

Which validator did you use? W3C warns only about the floated elements
without widths.

<http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/>, as dorayme has pointed you to,
and as you'll already revisited.


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John
I just *know* this post contains some misused apostrophe, misused
hyphen, grammatical errors, or misspellings.
Its Murhpys' Law