Can anything be done?

http://www.granatedit.com/800x600.html

This shows pretty much what I see at 800 x 600. I took a screen shot at that
resolution, but I had to enlarge it to make it look the same in 1280 x 1024,
which is probably close to what people here are using.

The type is really that large!

B.

Eric Bohlman wrote:

Els <els.aGEENSPAM (AT) tiscali (DOT) nl.invalid> wrote in
news:403151bb$0$41764$5fc3050 (AT) dreader2 (DOT) news.tiscali.nl:

I just got a newspaper here, and put it next to my screen,
and if the font on the screen were as small as the
newspaper's, I wouldn't be able to read it easily.
The newspaper itself I can read with no difficulties at all,
as I have pretty good eyesight.

Screen font is very different from paper font, I'd say...

Yep, you've got to remember that for a given physical size, a letter
printed by a press on paper is going to have a *lot* more detail than
a raster font on a screen. Phototypeset text consists of true
solids, so it's meaningless to talk about dots per inch there, but
it's at least as good as 1200 dpi raster text. So that means a
12-point character on paper is at least 200 "pixels" high, whereas on
a 96 dpi screen, it's only 16 pixels high, and a 10-point character
is only 13 pixels high. What that means is that screen text gets
blurry at sizes where print text is still crisp, because with a
limited number of pixels you can't represent some detail (I mean, 7
pixels high is the bare minimum needed to represent the English
alphabet, and that's for uppercase letters only with no descenders).

Right, right, and right. But in this case -- I've posted a link to a picture
of what I see -- it's much larger than necessary. Now, what would happen if
I put no font size whatsoever in the CSS?


B.

Bonnie Granat wrote:

Right, right, and right. But in this case -- I've posted a link to a
picture of what I see -- it's much larger than necessary. Now, what
would happen if I put no font size whatsoever in the CSS?

Nothing at all happened. No change.
--

Bonnie Granat
www.granatedit.com

"Bonnie Granat" <bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
news:71c7825b.0402161215.5c07ba4 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...

If I build my site according to the recommendations given by my
esteemed colleagues here, then when someone views it in 600 x 800
resolution, the type is huge, even on the smallest setting in Internet
Explorer.

Can anything be done?

This is what i get under IE5.5 SP2:
http://samuel.phpindex.nl/dump.gif (28 kB)
- also notice the horizontal scrollbar -
Perhaps it works under IE6, though i wouldn't count on it

In case it matters:
running a 1024x768 resolution, and a maximal sized browser window.


Regards,
Samuël

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:00:05 -0500, "Bonnie Granat"
<bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com> declared in alt.html.critique:

http://www.granatedit.com/800x600.html

Looking at that (and looking at the page here), the body text is only
slightly larger than the text in the address bar (which could just be a
different font). Given that it is a larger body of text, it probably
needs to be slightly larger if anything, anyway. I don't see a problem.

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

Samuël van Laere wrote:

"Bonnie Granat" <bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
news:71c7825b.0402161215.5c07ba4 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
If I build my site according to the recommendations given by my
esteemed colleagues here, then when someone views it in 600 x 800
resolution, the type is huge, even on the smallest setting in
Internet Explorer.

Can anything be done?


This is what i get under IE5.5 SP2:
http://samuel.phpindex.nl/dump.gif (28 kB)
- also notice the horizontal scrollbar -
Perhaps it works under IE6, though i wouldn't count on it

In case it matters:
running a 1024x768 resolution, and a maximal sized browser window.


Regards,
Samuël

This is at 1024x768 or at 800x600? What size type? Largest? (Note that the
subject of this thread is the large type at 800x600; I presume you are
talking about how it looks in IE 5.5 at high resolution (see below, where I
address that issue).

At 1280x1024, on the largest type setting in IE6, the page looks like this
at about 40% of the full window:

http://www.granatedit.com/samuel2.html

That's as good as it gets. If I begin to make the window even smaller, it
looks like this, which resembles your picture:

http://www.granatedit.com/samuel1.html

So, at the largest type size in IE 6, the page works as well as it possibly
can.

Haven't most people abandoned IE 5.5 because of its problems? (Even
Microsoft?)

Regards,


--

Bonnie Granat
www.granatedit.com

But does that issue relate to the size issue?

Do you know what CSS do?

Bonnie Granat wrote:

Bonnie Granat wrote:

Right, right, and right. But in this case -- I've posted a link to a
picture of what I see -- it's much larger than necessary. Now, what
would happen if I put no font size whatsoever in the CSS?



Nothing at all happened. No change.

Are you listening to what anyone is saying?

*IT IS FINE AS IT IS*

You dont need to change it.

Mark Parnell wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:00:05 -0500, "Bonnie Granat"
bgranat (AT) granatedit (DOT) com> declared in alt.html.critique:

http://www.granatedit.com/800x600.html

Looking at that (and looking at the page here), the body text is only
slightly larger than the text in the address bar (which could just be
a different font). Given that it is a larger body of text, it probably
needs to be slightly larger if anything, anyway. I don't see a
problem.

I noticed the same thing about the size in relation to the browser type, but
of course that is because EVERYTHING is large in 800x600. Yet there are
pages on the Web one can find with smaller type. They do it by using the
size tag in the HTML, which of course I cannot do. I'm sure there's some
code one could use that would determine the user's resolution and supply a
particular page, but I don't know JavaScript.

B.

Weyoun the Dancing Borg wrote:

But does that issue relate to the size issue?

Do you know what CSS do?

Yes. I'm using CSS, but the kind people here tell me not to use 90% for a
font size. One of the reasons I used 90% for a font size on my earlier pages
was so that when people using 800x600 resolution viewed my site, they would
NOT get HUGE type at the smallest IE setting.


--

Bonnie Granat
www.granatedit.com