Can anything be done?

Bonnie Granat wrote:

Els wrote:

Bonnie Granat wrote:

kchayka wrote:

Bonnie Granat wrote:

I've just uploaded a screenshot here:
http://home.tiscali.nl/~elizabeth/bonnie.jpg
From left to right: IE6.0: set to normal,

Are you referring to Display Properties > Appearance > Font size?

Yes.

If so,
then yes, I am choosing that for my computer, whatever size it is, because
the other choices -- Large and Extra Large -- are not what I want.

However, the only "normal" setting I have is there -- in Windows -- not in
IE. What setting on the spectrum Smallest, Smaller, Medium,
Larger, Largest,
are you using on that first example?

Medium.

NS7.1: set to
100% (original size),

That's the same result that I get here. NS7.1 ups the small Trebuchet 100%
font one notch. It is not showing us the true original. ; )

Where do you find the true original?

Opera 7.23: set to 100%,

Opera is doing what NS is doing for me, also. It is upping the small
Trebuchet 100% to what Arial looks like at 100%.

Now I think I'm starting to understand what you mean...
Let's see if I do: You are for instance comparing a 12pt
Arial to a 12pt Trebuchet, and find that Trebuchet is
smaller. Then you notice, that when you use Trebuchet in a
page, the font is 'upped' by the browser to be more or less
the same size as Arial would have been.
Correct?

and again IE6.0, this time set to extra small.

I do not have a setting called extra small. I have Smallest, Smaller,
Medium, Larger, Largest. Where is your setting "extra small"?

smallest :-)

If you are right about smallest in IE being what the
designer set, then also Opera and Netscape are lying about
what is 'normal' or 'original', or did I misunderstand you
completely?

Well, they *do* appear to be taking the small font Trebuchet and notching
up -- UNLESS -- it is Microsoft Internet Explorer that is notching it down
so that at 100% it appears perfect for me. ; )

And here you lost me again :-(
All three browsers (Opera, Netscape and IE) show the same
size when the font is set to 100%. IE shows it smaller when
set to smallest. As one would expect.


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Els

Mente humana é como pára-quedas; funciona melhor aberta.

Bonnie Granat wrote:

We still haven't determined what it is that the percentage is applied to,
have we?

No :-)

I asked this a few posts back. It would have to be some default, I suppose,
but *what* default? Where is the default set? How does one find out what the
default *is*? Questions, questions, questions...

If we weren't here already, I'd say, ask around on usenet,
they know everything ;-)


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Els

Mente humana é como pára-quedas; funciona melhor aberta.

kchayka wrote:

Bonnie Granat wrote:

We still haven't determined what it is that the percentage is
applied to, have we?

No, I am not going to get wrapped up in this again, but I have to ask:
What difference does it make? You can't really control what IE does.
I think it's part of the MS philosophy of trying to protect users from
themselves. It's also one of the main reasons I dislike MS so much
(always thinking it knows better than I do - NOT!).

If you used a different browser, you could set your default to the
exact size you wanted and you would know exactly what 100% equated
to. But you won't, so you can't. If you are going to stick with IE,
then you'll just have to live with its deficiencies. Why don't you
move on to something more important, eh?

I have tried Mozilla, Opera, and NS and I do not like them because their
controls are annoying. NS has an arrow turning to the left that intuitively
should mean "Go back." But it doesn't mean that. Opera's fade-in type makes
me dizzy.

I am simply trying to understand what's going on. You are not me, so what is
important to me might be different than what is important to you. That's the
way life is. ; )

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Bonnie Granat wrote:

I have tried Mozilla, Opera, and NS and I do not like them because their
controls are annoying. NS has an arrow turning to the left that intuitively
should mean "Go back.

You mean the reload button?
http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/scr...scape-reloaded

Opera's fade-in type makes me dizzy.

View > Skin > Special Effects [off]

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Toby A Inkster wrote:

Bonnie Granat wrote:

I have tried Mozilla, Opera, and NS and I do not like them because
their controls are annoying. NS has an arrow turning to the left
that intuitively should mean "Go back.

You mean the reload button?
http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/scr...scape-reloaded

It's the reload button, but it looks like this in my version of NS 7.1:

http://www.granatedit.com/nsreload.html

Opera's fade-in type makes me dizzy.

View > Skin > Special Effects [off]

I'll check it out. Thanks, Toby. ; )

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Bonnie Granat
www.granatedit.com