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Jon
 
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Default Art degree show site crit - 05-08-2004 , 01:39 PM






Hi all,

I was asked by my friends on my fine art degree to create a web site for
our degree show, I realise that what i've created is not the most cutting
edge or perfectly coded web site but i would truly appreciate some feed
back.

The gallery section contains Flash plugins to show the work, so be warned if
you hate flash, but i believe i made it quite subtle.

i'd just like to know that the site doesn't contain any glitches that stop
it working.

tia

http://www.jokielbenotmane.btinterne...e04/index.html

jonathan jokiel-benotmane



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Karl Groves
 
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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-08-2004 , 02:14 PM







"Jon" <skidj (AT) softhome (DOT) net> wrote

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Hi all,

I was asked by my friends on my fine art degree to create a web site
for
our degree show<snip
What is the accepted way to share a message across multiple newsgroups?
http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html

-Karl




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Jon
 
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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-08-2004 , 03:45 PM




"Karl Groves" <karl (AT) NOSPAMkarlcore (DOT) com> wrote


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What is the accepted way to share a message across multiple newsgroups?
http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html

-Karl

oops, sorry.. i have not really used usenet much before, i was looking
through the list of news groups for an apt place to post and just posted as
i came across them. but only to here and alt.www.webmaster.

my apologies




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Edwin van der Vaart
 
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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-08-2004 , 04:53 PM



Jon wrote:
Quote:
Hi all,

I was asked by my friends on my fine art degree to create a web site for
our degree show, I realise that what i've created is not the most cutting
edge or perfectly coded web site but i would truly appreciate some feed
back.

The gallery section contains Flash plugins to show the work, so be warned if
you hate flash, but i believe i made it quite subtle.

i'd just like to know that the site doesn't contain any glitches that stop
it working.

tia

http://www.jokielbenotmane.btinterne...e04/index.html
With Galeon 1.3.8 (Mandrake 9.2 /Linux) and firefox 0.8. I got a
horizontal scrollbar with a window of 800x600.
At the welcome.html

Make more use of the style sheet and put it as an external file.
The content are difficult to read, especially when you have specified
the font-size as -1. So I would suggest to use "percentage" or "em" for
the font-size.

Nice counter. When I hit refresh of the browser, the counter increase
with 1. :-)
--
Edwin van der Vaart
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction


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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-08-2004 , 06:33 PM



On Sat, 8 May 2004 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC), "Jon" <skidj (AT) softhome (DOT) net>
wrote:


Quote:
i'd just like to know that the site doesn't contain any glitches that stop
it working.

tia

http://www.jokielbenotmane.btinterne...e04/index.html
One of the problems that can be encountered using Flash, is unable to
use the BACK button.
When I go from Home to Gallery1.html, I am unable to get BACK to home,
just keeps reloading the flash pug-in

PDF map nice touch, but took forever to download and print, on a fast
connection.

the takeo4 logo only thing on the page between home and shop is
useless, have to click again to get to shop.

order button did not work on Tom Johnson oranges,
temporarily unavailable.

Again no BACK button from this page, only a HOME,
fortunately Shop Home and not Home Home.

No way to back to the gallery site from your shop page
Give me back my browser buttons!!

How to Contact Us only gives a mail address to mail my check
What if I just want to complain?
)grin(

would have preferred table containing works for sale to be centered.
not often I see too much whitespace for me

Using IE6 and WIN 98

johnSteve


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Hywel
 
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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-08-2004 , 07:48 PM



In article <c7j61d$h65$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com>, Jon says...
Quote:
Hi all,

I was asked by my friends on my fine art degree to create a web site for
our degree show, I realise that what i've created is not the most cutting
edge or perfectly coded web site but i would truly appreciate some feed
back.

The gallery section contains Flash plugins to show the work, so be warned if
you hate flash, but i believe i made it quite subtle.
I suppose it doesn't get any more subtle than this:
http://usenet.kibo.org.uk/jon.jpg

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Hywel I do not eat quiche
http://kibo.org.uk/
http://kibo.org.uk/mfaq.php


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m
 
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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-09-2004 , 03:50 AM



Jon wrote:

Quote:
Hi all,
........
The gallery section contains Flash plugins to show the work, so be warned
if you hate flash, but i believe i made it quite subtle.
......
http://www.jokielbenotmane.btinterne...e04/index.html
What the plugin does here could easily be done with JavaScript and
an HTML form, and done to equally bad effect. An exhibition had
better be *extraordinary* if I'm going to slog through it one image
at a time. Your visitors need thumbnail previews to choose
which images they want to enlarge.

I'm not absolutely opposed to flash, but it works best for the rare
cases when animation is really needed, not for normal navigational
purposes. When used for navigation all it does is throw up
barriers, both to access and use. If you were doing artistic work
*with* flash, like that at simian.nu, it would be justified.
Presenting an exhibition *in* flash just gets in the way of the
visitor.
--
HTH, m http://www.mbstevens.com/


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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-09-2004 , 12:42 PM




----- Original Message -----
From: "johnSteve" <stevo1 (AT) bresnan (DOT) net>
Newsgroups: alt.html.critique
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: Art degree show site crit


Quote:
One of the problems that can be encountered using Flash, is unable to
use the BACK button.
When I go from Home to Gallery1.html, I am unable to get BACK to home,
just keeps reloading the flash pug-in

PDF map nice touch, but took forever to download and print, on a fast
connection.

the takeo4 logo only thing on the page between home and shop is
useless, have to click again to get to shop.
snip

should have made that a little more clear
the shop has been written by someone else
i simply wanted to know if there were any problems with the index, welcome
and gallery pages.

Is there any way of making the back button go back more than one page?
i'm guessing there isn't otherwise that would be a perfect way of getting
hits
i just didn't want to test for the flash plug-in everytime some one opened
clicked on a name.




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Jon
 
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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-09-2004 , 12:42 PM




"Hywel" <hyweljenkins (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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In article <c7j61d$h65$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com>, Jon says...
Hi all,

I suppose it doesn't get any more subtle than this:
http://usenet.kibo.org.uk/jon.jpg
is that what happens? if you have no plug-in it should send you to

http://www.jokielbenotmane.btinterne...04/need_f.html

strange.




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Jon
 
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Default Re: Art degree show site crit - 05-09-2004 , 12:42 PM




"m" <NOXwebmasterx (AT) xmbstevensx (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Jon wrote:

Hi all,
........
The gallery section contains Flash plugins to show the work, so be
warned
if you hate flash, but i believe i made it quite subtle.
......
http://www.jokielbenotmane.btinterne...e04/index.html

What the plugin does here could easily be done with JavaScript and
an HTML form, and done to equally bad effect. An exhibition had
better be *extraordinary* if I'm going to slog through it one image
at a time. Your visitors need thumbnail previews to choose
which images they want to enlarge.

I'm not absolutely opposed to flash, but it works best for the rare
cases when animation is really needed, not for normal navigational
purposes. When used for navigation all it does is throw up
barriers, both to access and use. If you were doing artistic work
*with* flash, like that at simian.nu, it would be justified.
Presenting an exhibition *in* flash just gets in the way of the
visitor.
--
HTH, m http://www.mbstevens.com/
i agree with what you say, i use Flash mainly to create generative
animations, i find it a lot easier to interact with images and text using
Flash than any other programs i've had a chance to use. I've used it to make
college pieces, but i don't know javaScript well enough to create what i
have. In all honesty i think only our friends and relatives will be looking
at the site and people we direct to it, so a name will be enough to go by. I
just wanted to make something simple without having to write 3-5 pages of
html for all 61 people on my course. the Flash program basiclly reads a txt
file that contains all the variables shown on the page, and i only had to
write it once.




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