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Default My revised web page - 03-29-2006 , 02:02 PM






I've made many of my pages valid but my main page and a few others are
still not. There is an image source error though I don't know how to
correct it and there are several no script and other errors at the
bottom of the page. I'm not sure these can be corrected as they have to
do with a counter in one case and an email form in another and the html
for each came from my server.

If I can fix it, fine, otherwise I'll have to accept the errors I
suppose.

Thanks,

Ed

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Default Re: My revised web page - 03-30-2006 , 06:49 PM







Main page issues:
http://onlinewebcheck.com/?url=http:...ldmidincd.com/

To fix the comment issue (according to the W3C validator), change this
See www.doteasy.com for info. --->
to this
See www.doteasy.com for info. -->

Similarly, use <!-- instead of <!--- in your comments.

You can fix many of the entity issues by changing & to &amp; in your links.

I'd suggest using onlinewebcheck.com because I think it's easier to use and
tries to concentrate on the more important issues.

--
Albert Wiersch


"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote

Quote:
I've made many of my pages valid but my main page and a few others are
still not. There is an image source error though I don't know how to
correct it and there are several no script and other errors at the
bottom of the page. I'm not sure these can be corrected as they have to
do with a counter in one case and an email form in another and the html
for each came from my server.

If I can fix it, fine, otherwise I'll have to accept the errors I
suppose.

Thanks,

Ed

http://www.egoldmidincd.com/

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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 03-31-2006 , 06:59 AM



Thank you.

In many cases, the problems are in the coding which is not of my making.
For example, the Japanese Elgar link is really their link and I don't
think it can be changed and still work. Similarly the doteasy comments
code which the server warns against changing and I think I need to
correspond with them about that. Chances are these are insoluble unless
I relegate these links to other pages which I think would deflect the
"sins" from my main page.

On the other hand, I think, the problems on another page are easier to
solve:

http://www.egoldmidincd.com/buddhas.html

It did once seem to validate, even with a different code, but no longer.

Thanks for the Online web check link. I can't really download the .exe
files as I'm running a Mac.

Ed

In article <122ork3ho731hd4 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
"Albert Wiersch" <mrinternetnewsREMOVEUPPERCASETOREPLY (AT) wiersch (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
Main page issues:
http://onlinewebcheck.com/?url=http:...ldmidincd.com/

To fix the comment issue (according to the W3C validator), change this
See www.doteasy.com for info. ---
to this
See www.doteasy.com for info. --

Similarly, use <!-- instead of <!--- in your comments.

You can fix many of the entity issues by changing & to &amp; in your links.

I'd suggest using onlinewebcheck.com because I think it's easier to use and
tries to concentrate on the more important issues.

--
Albert Wiersch


"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote in message
news:eddy438-A6E6CA.14024329032006 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com...
I've made many of my pages valid but my main page and a few others are
still not. There is an image source error though I don't know how to
correct it and there are several no script and other errors at the
bottom of the page. I'm not sure these can be corrected as they have to
do with a counter in one case and an email form in another and the html
for each came from my server.

If I can fix it, fine, otherwise I'll have to accept the errors I
suppose.

Thanks,

Ed

http://www.egoldmidincd.com/

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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 03-31-2006 , 09:51 AM




"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote

Quote:
In many cases, the problems are in the coding which is not of my making.
For example, the Japanese Elgar link is really their link and I don't
think it can be changed and still work. Similarly the doteasy comments
code which the server warns against changing and I think I need to
correspond with them about that. Chances are these are insoluble unless
I relegate these links to other pages which I think would deflect the
"sins" from my main page.
Hi Ed,

You should be able to fix the code they give you, unless they have some
automated bot that looks to see that you've got the exact code they gave
you. It's a bit "disgusting" that places give you bad HTML and tell you not
to change it. If they are going to distribute bits of HTML, why can't they
at least fix that? I would definitely say something to them about it.

Quote:
On the other hand, I think, the problems on another page are easier to
solve:
http://www.egoldmidincd.com/buddhas.html
http://onlinewebcheck.com/?url=www.e...m/buddhas.html

On line 14 you have a "mess" (missing quote and '>'):
<embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120 width="160"</embed>

Quote:
Thanks for the Online web check link. I can't really download the .exe
files as I'm running a Mac.
No problem!

Albert




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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 03-31-2006 , 11:45 AM



In article <122qgep1j2hgr32 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
"Albert Wiersch" <mrinternetnewsREMOVEUPPERCASETOREPLY (AT) wiersch (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote in message
news:eddy438-28AC24.06593031032006 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com...
In many cases, the problems are in the coding which is not of my making.
For example, the Japanese Elgar link is really their link and I don't
think it can be changed and still work. Similarly the doteasy comments
code which the server warns against changing and I think I need to
correspond with them about that. Chances are these are insoluble unless
I relegate these links to other pages which I think would deflect the
"sins" from my main page.

Hi Ed,

You should be able to fix the code they give you, unless they have some
automated bot that looks to see that you've got the exact code they gave
you. It's a bit "disgusting" that places give you bad HTML and tell you not
to change it. If they are going to distribute bits of HTML, why can't they
at least fix that? I would definitely say something to them about it.
I think the doteasy form will work all right with the revised code
though I haven't yet put that on and haven't been in contact with them
yet. But I was able to go from my desktop file and send myself a test
message with the form and it was received in Thunderbird.

The Japanese link won't quite get me to the right page when I add the
amp; so that remains a problem. I think I will put that link on another
page.
Quote:
On the other hand, I think, the problems on another page are easier to
solve:
http://www.egoldmidincd.com/buddhas.html

http://onlinewebcheck.com/?url=www.e...m/buddhas.html

On line 14 you have a "mess" (missing quote and '>'):
embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120 width="160"</embed
This remains a "mess" and the validator now has 9 errors. Maybe I've
misunderstood what you were saying.

Thanks again Albert,

Ed
Quote:
Thanks for the Online web check link. I can't really download the .exe
files as I'm running a Mac.

No problem!

Albert
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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 03-31-2006 , 08:55 PM





"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote

Quote:
The Japanese link won't quite get me to the right page when I add the
amp; so that remains a problem. I think I will put that link on another
page.
That's strange... what is the orginal link and what did you change it to?

Quote:
http://onlinewebcheck.com/?url=www.e...m/buddhas.html

On line 14 you have a "mess" (missing quote and '>'):
embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120 width="160"</embed

This remains a "mess" and the validator now has 9 errors. Maybe I've
misunderstood what you were saying.
The current line appears to be this (which still needs fixing):
<embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120" width="160"</src>

Also, there are still quite a few issues with that page... like the "html"
tag on line 10 which should be under the DOCTYPE line. Also the end tag for
"html" on line 12.

Albert




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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 04-01-2006 , 09:42 AM



In article <122rnb8olu0o3b3 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
"Albert Wiersch" <mrinternetnewsREMOVEUPPERCASETOREPLY (AT) wiersch (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote in message
news:eddy438-495E92.11453531032006 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com...

The Japanese link won't quite get me to the right page when I add the
amp; so that remains a problem. I think I will put that link on another
page.

That's strange... what is the orginal link and what did you change it to?
Albert,

I fixed that link although it doesn't yet validate completely. It's here:

http://egoldmidincd.com/elgar.html

validator finds as follows: Line 35 column 219: end tag for element "A"
which is not open.

...._dis=2&amp;wb_co=excitejapan">page</a> on the Japanese Elgar site
Quote:
http://onlinewebcheck.com/?url=www.e...m/buddhas.html

On line 14 you have a "mess" (missing quote and '>'):
embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120 width="160"</embed

This remains a "mess" and the validator now has 9 errors. Maybe I've
misunderstood what you were saying.

The current line appears to be this (which still needs fixing):
embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120" width="160"</src
I've gotten this page down to 3 errors all of which are on this line. It
seems that I and a lot of others don't understand what the correct form
should be and it's still not clear to me. Apparently the closing </src>
is not wanted but it still doesn't completely solve the problem.

Thanks,

Ed
Quote:
Also, there are still quite a few issues with that page... like the "html"
tag on line 10 which should be under the DOCTYPE line. Also the end tag for
"html" on line 12.

Albert
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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 04-01-2006 , 01:27 PM




"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote

Quote:
That's strange... what is the orginal link and what did you change it to?
Albert,

I fixed that link although it doesn't yet validate completely. It's here:

http://egoldmidincd.com/elgar.html

validator finds as follows: Line 35 column 219: end tag for element "A"
which is not open.

..._dis=2&amp;wb_co=excitejapan">page</a> on the Japanese Elgar site
That link is missing a beginning quotation mark for the "href" attribute,
and confusing the validator.

Quote:
The current line appears to be this (which still needs fixing):
embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120" width="160"</src

I've gotten this page down to 3 errors all of which are on this line. It
seems that I and a lot of others don't understand what the correct form
should be and it's still not clear to me. Apparently the closing </src
is not wanted but it still doesn't completely solve the problem.
Try something like this:
<embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120" width="160"></embed>

I hope this helps.

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http://www.htmlvalidator.com/




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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 04-01-2006 , 01:40 PM




"kchayka" <usenet (AT) c-net (DOT) us> wrote

Quote:
Ed, don't listen to that guy, he really just wants to sell you his "CSE
validator" tool, which isn't a real validator. onlinewebcheck missed
several bona fide errors on your home page that could easily be the
cause of trouble in some browsers. Plus it reported many false errors on
the buddhas page, and completely missed the double "src=src=" on the
embed element.

The W3C validator has had a lot of improvements, including more
intuitive messages and better help. But if you are still uncomfortable
with it, a much better alternative than onlinewebcheck is
URL:http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/

The W3C validator doesn't exactly catch everything either. For many examples
of what it misses, try this:
http://www.htmlvalidator.com/htmlval...eisbetter.html

Furthermore, if other errors that onlinewebcheck.com found were fixed, other
issues would appear. Previous errors may cause other issues to be missed,
depending on the effect of the error. The same is true of other checkers as
well.

Also, onlinewebcheck.com is based more on what works in the real world than
strictly enforcing the standard. What web browser do you know that uses a
real SGML parser? If there was one, no one would use it since it wouldn't
display over 90% of web pages due to "errors". Does one write HTML for
people to actually see in a real-world browser or are you just writing it to
conform to the standards?

Onlinewebcheck.com is also a free service, that can be used in place of or
in addition to the W3C validator, depending on what a person wants. It finds
many issues, but not everything. I know of no checker that finds every
possible HTML problem. If someone wants better checking, including
integrated CSS, link, and accessibility checking, then we offer a product
that provides it. Just because we sell a product doesn't make us evil. Our
users appreciate us and we appreciate them.

The W3C validator is certainly useful, but so is onlinewebcheck.com and
especially our professional products that go far beyond what
onlinewebcheck.com can find (for those who want that level of checking).

Albert Wiersch




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Default Re: My revised web page (with an autoplay page problem.) - 04-02-2006 , 07:51 AM



In article <497ieuFnd72cU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, kchayka <usenet (AT) c-net (DOT) us>
wrote:

Quote:
Ed wrote:
In article <122qgep1j2hgr32 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
"Albert Wiersch" <mrinternetnewsREMOVEUPPERCASETOREPLY (AT) wiersch (DOT) com
wrote:

"Ed" <eddy438 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com> wrote in message
news:eddy438-28AC24.06593031032006 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com...

http://www.egoldmidincd.com/buddhas.html

http://onlinewebcheck.com/?url=www.e...m/buddhas.html

On line 14 you have a "mess" (missing quote and '>'):
embed src="buddhas.mp3" height="120 width="160"</embed

This remains a "mess" and the validator now has 9 errors. Maybe I've
misunderstood what you were saying.

Ed, don't listen to that guy, he really just wants to sell you his "CSE
validator" tool, which isn't a real validator. onlinewebcheck missed
several bona fide errors on your home page that could easily be the
cause of trouble in some browsers. Plus it reported many false errors on
the buddhas page, and completely missed the double "src=src=" on the
embed element.
Yes, this was one of my attempts to fix that link. The structural syntax
feature of the html editor and the W3C doesn't seem to like anything and
the autoplay link seems to be especially bothersome. (Haven't had a
chance to try Albert's last suggestion yet.)
Quote:
The W3C validator has had a lot of improvements, including more
intuitive messages and better help. But if you are still uncomfortable
with it, a much better alternative than onlinewebcheck is
URL:http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/

If you're going to validate, use a real validator, not a linter wannabe
like CSE.
As I mentioned before, Albert's software seems to be for Windows only so
I can't use it anyway.

I only recently changed servers (but kept the same domain name.) and I
have a lot more bandwidth to play with but that means more pages and
more chances to go wrong with the html.

Thanks,

Ed

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