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Default Any sudjestions welcome - 02-07-2004 , 11:07 AM






I'm currently working on a website for a legal office and I welcome an
sudgestions on how to make just the layout look more professional. M
supervisors like the pale-yellow background color as opposed to white
Also, I don't have a lot of resources as far as photos, so if anyon
has any sudjestions of where I can obtain cheap or no-cost photos (fo
a non-profit immigration law office) it would be most appriciated.

This is the latest design I've done:
http://tinyurl.com/369p9

Thank you for any help you can provide.
P.S. I've been told it takes a while to load....sorry
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Steve R.
 
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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-07-2004 , 11:39 AM






domeceo wrote:
Quote:
I'm currently working on a website for a legal office and I welcome
any suggestions on how to make just the layout look more
professional.
Considering nearly half the people in the world using the internet view at
800x600 resolution, you ought to make the site viewable comfortably at that
size, by having a fluid layout, which is pleasantly viewable at 800x600 and
will expand to fit larger browsers.

At the moment people will have to use the horizontal scroll bar to read the
right-hand end of the top menu.

It might be worth reading these below....

Design for Any Size:
http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign

The Myth of 800x600:
http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=2684/...092/index.html

How Can I Make My Pages Look Good On All Monitors?
http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm




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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-07-2004 , 12:58 PM



In message <a705f00f2f0b478fd7721c5c4e651683 (AT) news (DOT) teranews.com>, domeceo
<domeceo.119jph (AT) webfrustration (DOT) com> writes
Quote:
I'm currently working on a website for a legal office and I welcome any
sudgestions on how to make just the layout look more professional. My
supervisors like the pale-yellow background color as opposed to white.
Also, I don't have a lot of resources as far as photos, so if anyone
has any sudjestions of where I can obtain cheap or no-cost photos (for
a non-profit immigration law office) it would be most appriciated.

This is the latest design I've done:
http://tinyurl.com/369p9

Thank you for any help you can provide.
P.S. I've been told it takes a while to load....sorry.
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A few thoughts.

(a) Your top menu is unusable by anyone with Javascript disabled; it
will also be invisible to users of AT (assistive technology) e.g.
screen-readers, voice-browsers.

(b) Leaving spaces between the letters in 'RESCUE RESETTLEMENT REUNION'
means that an AT program will *spell* the words letter-by-letter. Take a
look at CSS's 'letter-spacing'.

(c) Try and make the page fluid -- or make sure it fits in IE on a
800x600 screen

(d) You need an index for the page. The 3-item entry that you already
have (MISSION/WHAT'S NEW, CONTACT US) is spoken *last*, after all the
content is spoken. Organise a comprehensive index at the start of the
page.

You have a number of headings styled (e.g. General Assembly Comes to
Philadelphia) but not marked up in the HTML. I also feel that some of
those huge paragraphs could be broken down.

The 3 headings that you do have are styled as <H3>; these should be
<H2>, with subheadings (General Assembly Comes to Philadelphia) as <H3>.

(e) Centre-justified text is harder to read for many people than
right-ragged.

(f) Run your text through a grammar/spell-checker to pick up all the
typos.

As I said -- just a few initial thoughts.

regards.
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Jake


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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-07-2004 , 01:31 PM



In message <9gqlKpG8cSJAFwWf (AT) gododdin (DOT) demon.co.uk>, jake
<jake (AT) gododdin (DOT) demon.co.uk> writes
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In message <a705f00f2f0b478fd7721c5c4e651683 (AT) news (DOT) teranews.com>,
domeceo <domeceo.119jph (AT) webfrustration (DOT) com> writes
I'm currently working on a website for a legal office and I welcome any
sudgestions on how to make just the layout look more professional. My
supervisors like the pale-yellow background color as opposed to white.
Also, I don't have a lot of resources as far as photos, so if anyone
has any sudjestions of where I can obtain cheap or no-cost photos (for
a non-profit immigration law office) it would be most appriciated.

This is the latest design I've done:
http://tinyurl.com/369p9

Thank you for any help you can provide.
P.S. I've been told it takes a while to load....sorry.
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A few thoughts.

[snip]
....... and a few more:

(i) You appear to have 2 images taking some 118k; the pages will load a
lot quicker if to optimise these images

(ii) Ensure that you have alternative text set on *all* <img> tags.

On your initial page you have a 3-entry index:

To me it sounds like:
..............................................
CLICK TO VIEW:
[new/index4b.htm#mission.]
[new/index4b.htm#whatsnew.]
[new/index4b.htm#contactus.]
..............................................

because there's no alternative text.
Quote:
regards.
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William Tasso
 
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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-08-2004 , 10:08 AM



jake wrote:
Quote:
In message <a705f00f2f0b478fd7721c5c4e651683 (AT) news (DOT) teranews.com>,
domeceo <domeceo.119jph (AT) webfrustration (DOT) com> writes

This is the latest design I've done:
http://tinyurl.com/369p9

Thank you for any help you can provide.

(a) Your top menu is unusable by anyone with Javascript disabled; it
will also be invisible to users of AT (assistive technology) e.g.
screen-readers, voice-browsers.

.... and search engine spiders.

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William Tasso




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Samuël ML Lison
 
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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-08-2004 , 04:55 PM



On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:07:41 GMT, domeceo wrote the following message
<a705f00f2f0b478fd7721c5c4e651683 (AT) news (DOT) teranews.com>:

Quote:
I'm currently working on a website for a legal office and I welcome any
sudgestions on how to make just the layout look more professional. My
supervisors like the pale-yellow background color as opposed to white.
Also, I don't have a lot of resources as far as photos, so if anyone
has any sudjestions of where I can obtain cheap or no-cost photos (for
a non-profit immigration law office) it would be most appriciated.

This is the latest design I've done:
http://tinyurl.com/369p9

Thank you for any help you can provide.
P.S. I've been told it takes a while to load....sorry.
Your pages are much too wide. My screen resolution is set to 1280x1024
and I still have to scroll horizontally.

Make your pages 800x600 or make them liquid form, so that they stretch
to any size beyond 800x600.

Regards,
Samuël


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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-12-2004 , 11:17 AM




Thanks for all the advice. I've mostly been checking the webfrustratio
forum and I just found this one. I'm looking into making the site mor
"liquid" so the resolution will look better. Two of my latest concern
are: reducing load time, and making the site Netscape compatible. I
anyone (especially with a 56K modem) could check the load time for m
it would be appreciated.

The major load time issue is the embedded text which, although i
increases load time A LOT more than if I just made the needed text int
images, I'm using it so the page will be easier to edit and update by
non-tech person when I leave the office.

The latest design is:
www.hiaspa.org/demos/new

Although I haven't implemented all the suggestions from this thread ye
the code is a slightly better optimized then before

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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-12-2004 , 12:27 PM



domeceo wrote in message ...
Quote:
The latest design is:
www.hiaspa.org/demos/new

The major load time issue is the embedded text which,
No it isn't !!

It's mainly the thirty-one gif images and other files totalling 115K in
size which make the download time long on dial-ups.

It still requires the use of horizontal scroll-bars at 800x600. (that's 40%
of all www viewers you'll be upsetting)




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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-12-2004 , 01:01 PM



In message <RHOWb.2812$ii.28090565 (AT) news-text (DOT) cableinet.net>, Steve R.
<stevie_ritchie (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes
Quote:
domeceo wrote in message ...
The latest design is:
www.hiaspa.org/demos/new

The major load time issue is the embedded text which,

No it isn't !!

It's not going to help, though. It's going to need to load 40k for one
of the .eot files that I checked -- and there's 2 of them (i.e. normal
plus italic versions of 'High Tower Text'). This is -- what? -- 80k?

The size of the files suggest that these are not subsets (which would be
normal) -- but the entire font (even though *very little* use is made of
the fonts). Not a smart idea.

Interestingly, the 'special font' text looks pretty much the same to me
in IE and Opera -- and Opera doesn't support MS .eot files.


Quote:
It's mainly the thirty-one gif images and other files totalling 115K in
size which make the download time long on dial-ups.

It still requires the use of horizontal scroll-bars at 800x600. (that's 40%
of all www viewers you'll be upsetting)


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domeceo
 
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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-12-2004 , 03:58 PM




jake wrote:
Quote:
The size of the files suggest that these are not subsets (which woul
be
normal) -- but the entire font (even though *very little* use is mad
of
the fonts). Not a smart idea.

I removed the italics font because I found out I don't need it as lon
as I use italics tags on the normal font. Still, I'd like to make th
font into a subset if that will further decreace the size, if yo
wouldn't mind telling me how using Microsoft Weft (or another fon
embedding app).

Also I replaced the images I was using for the anchors to make the sit
easier to edit and to decrease load time and the number of files on ou
server

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