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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-12-2004 , 03:58 PM






In message <domeceo.11j8op (AT) mail (DOT) forum4designers.com>, domeceo
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jake wrote:

The size of the files suggest that these are not subsets (which would
be
normal) -- but the entire font (even though *very little* use is made
of
the fonts). Not a smart idea.


I removed the italics font because I found out I don't need it as long
as I use italics tags on the normal font.
The browser will 'approximate' an italic variation of the font, so the
quality will never be as good as using a proper italic font.

The best approach *may* be to produce both variations of the font
(normal and italic) as subsets of the full font. Does your font come as
an italic version?

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Still, I'd like to make the
font into a subset if that will further decreace the size, if you
wouldn't mind telling me how using Microsoft Weft (or another font
embedding app).
Sure. Are you familiar with WEFT?
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Also I replaced the images I was using for the anchors to make the site
easier to edit and to decrease load time and the number of files on our
server.

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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-12-2004 , 06:14 PM







"domeceo" <Guest.11iusq (AT) mail (DOT) forum4designers.com> wrote

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Thanks for all the advice. I've mostly been checking the webfrustration
forum and I just found this one.
Neither the webfrustration 'forum' nor this one you are now posting from is
a forum. Both of them are simply web based access to usenet.

Why not just switch on your newsreader and access the newsgroups directly.
The web site you are using gives you no indication at all that your posts
are in fact going to the newsgroup alt.html.critique. Nor does it mention
that ALL of its contend is taken from there and several other usenet
newsgroups.


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I'm looking into making the site more
"liquid" so the resolution will look better. Two of my latest concerns
are: reducing load time,
Compress the images. For example logo_HIAS.jpg is only 159x74 pixels but is
a massive 12400 bytes. Convert it to a two colour gif and it would be about
2000 bytes. The other three images are similar, over 15000 bytes.

The whole page weighs in at 117K. It should be no larger than about 40. That
would reduce your load time to one third.

There is also a huge number of gifs you use for your nav bar. First of all,
don't use pictures of text, use the real text. Aural browsers can not read
pictures of text.

Once you use real text your navigation can be done with just one or two
images used as a background. Loadint 20 images means 20 round trips back to
the server and this is expensive in time. For me each trip takes at least
400 milliseconds so your load time is, at a minimum, 8 seconds and I am on
broadband.

BTW your navigation will not work if javascript is not available.

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and making the site Netscape compatible. If
Which netscape. Works fine in Mozilla.

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anyone (especially with a 56K modem) could check the load time for me
it would be appreciated.
See above. 117K will take at least 18 seconds, plus that 8 seconds for the
trips back to the server.

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The major load time issue is the embedded text which, although it
increases load time A LOT more than if I just made the needed text into
images,
Don't. googlebot can not read images. Images do not resize. Major
accessibility problems.

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I'm using it so the page will be easier to edit and update by a
non-tech person when I leave the office.
Not a good enough excuse for crippling the site.
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The latest design is:
www.hiaspa.org/demos/new

Although I haven't implemented all the suggestions from this thread yet
the code is a slightly better optimized then before.


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Cheers
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Default Re: Any sudjestions welcome - 02-12-2004 , 06:17 PM




"domeceo" <domeceo.11j8op (AT) mail (DOT) forum4designers.com> wrote

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The size of the files suggest that these are not subsets (which would
be
normal) -- but the entire font (even though *very little* use is made
of
the fonts). Not a smart idea.


I removed the italics font because I found out I don't need it as long
as I use italics
Italics is very hard to read on a computer screen, especially the large
block you have there.

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tags
Elements.


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on the normal font. Still, I'd like to make the
font into a subset if that will further decreace the size, if you
wouldn't mind telling me how using Microsoft Weft (or another font
embedding app).
Don't embed any fonts. Use the ones your viewer already has. They are used
to looking at web pages using them. There is nothing special about your page
that is requires a radically different font.

Cheers
Richard.




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