x-browser test: translucent background

http://tranchant.plus.com/

I've implemented what I believe to be a nice-looking translucent
background for the menu on my site. This is done with an
alpha-transparency PNG, overridden with an alternate-pixels
binary-transparency GIF (yuk) for IE and anything else that can't read
CSS ">" selectors properly.

Please take a look, and let me know if it gives you any problems,
stating browser version and OS. I'd be interested in any other feedback
on the site, which is halfway through a re-design.

Thanks!

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Mark.
http://tranchant.plus.com/
mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:06:32 +0100, Mark Tranchant wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

I've implemented what I believe to be a nice-looking translucent
background for the menu on my site.
....
Please take a look, and let me know if it gives you any problems,
stating browser version and OS.

Looks nice on IE 6.00.2600 & Moz 1.3 on XP.
Looks ..functional but extremely ugly in NN 4.08.
(shrugs) Hey, ..you asked! ;-)

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Andrew Thompson wrote:

Looks ..functional but extremely ugly in NN 4.08.

Watch me not care. My last full month stats [1] show way under 1% usage
of Netscape 4.x. So long as the site remains usable for them, I'm not
going to lose much sleep over the lack of site styling for a
seven-year-old browser!

Thanks for checking!

[1] http://tranchant.plus.com/stats/agent_200405

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Mark.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:30:28 +0100, Mark Tranchant wrote:

Andrew Thompson wrote:

Looks ..functional but extremely ugly in NN 4.08.

Watch me not care. ..

I'll wait for the video. ;-)

Mark Tranchant wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

I've implemented what I believe to be a nice-looking translucent
background for the menu on my site. This is done with an
alpha-transparency PNG, overridden with an alternate-pixels
binary-transparency GIF (yuk) for IE and anything else that can't read
CSS ">" selectors properly.

Well done :-)

Please take a look, and let me know if it gives you any problems,
stating browser version and OS. I'd be interested in any other feedback
on the site, which is halfway through a re-design.

Works nicely in IE6.0, IE5.0, NS7.1, Opera 7.50 and 7.01,
and Firefox. All on WinXP.

Remarks:
- On a 640x480 window the main part of the menu isn't
visible when viewing one of the 'notes' pages. Except in IE
of course. The only way to get the main menu back, is
clicking one of the links in brackets at the bottom of the page.

- On a page about correct spelling (-ise vs -ize) you say
"It ain’t"

- the little arrows which indicate external links, are
covered by the last letter of the link in IE5, instead of
being displayed after it. Regarding these little arrows, I
also wonder if you read my reply to your post about them?

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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:30:28 +0100, Mark Tranchant
<mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote:

Andrew Thompson wrote:

Looks ..functional but extremely ugly in NN 4.08.

Watch me not care. My last full month stats [1] show way under 1% usage
of Netscape 4.x. So long as the site remains usable for them, I'm not
going to lose much sleep over the lack of site styling for a
seven-year-old browser!

Thanks for checking!

[1] http://tranchant.plus.com/stats/agent_200405

You could hide positioning styles for them, and serve them plain HTML...

Neal wrote:

Andrew Thompson wrote:

Looks ..functional but extremely ugly in NN 4.08.

You could hide positioning styles for them, and serve them plain HTML...

That's what I do, unless I misunderstand you. The styling is entirely
contained in external CSS files.

If you looked at the site, and think I'm doing something else, please
explain what you mean.

--
Mark.

Els wrote:

Mark Tranchant wrote:
http://tranchant.plus.com/

- On a 640x480 window the main part of the menu isn't visible when
viewing one of the 'notes' pages. Except in IE of course. The only way
to get the main menu back, is clicking one of the links in brackets at
the bottom of the page.

...or using the "h" access key. Yeah, I know this is a problem. I think
I'm going to include an "up" link above the top menu.

- On a page about correct spelling (-ise vs -ize) you say "It ain’t"

That's irony (or so Alanis tells me). "It Ain't Necessarily So" is a
George Gershwin song, whose title I'm surreptitiously using here.

- the little arrows which indicate external links, are covered by the
last letter of the link in IE5, instead of being displayed after it.
Regarding these little arrows, I also wonder if you read my reply to
your post about them?

I did - you'll see I now use your 1px padding-left to fix half of IE's
problems with them. I'm curious that IE5 fails to render the
padding-right, though. I don't have access to IE5 - could you send me a
screenshot please?

--
Mark.

Mark Tranchant wrote:

Els wrote:

Mark Tranchant wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

- On a page about correct spelling (-ise vs -ize) you say "It ain’t"

That's irony (or so Alanis tells me). "It Ain't Necessarily So" is a
George Gershwin song, whose title I'm surreptitiously using here.

Okay, that explains it :-) (Don't know the song)

- the little arrows which indicate external links, are covered by the
last letter of the link in IE5, instead of being displayed after it.
Regarding these little arrows, I also wonder if you read my reply to
your post about them?

I did - you'll see I now use your 1px padding-left to fix half of IE's
problems with them.

Oops, missed that..

I'm curious that IE5 fails to render the
padding-right, though. I don't have access to IE5 - could you send me a
screenshot please?

http://locusmeus.com/temp/tranchantarrows.png

--
Els
http://locusmeus.com/
Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 13:47:57 +0100, Mark Tranchant wrote:

Andrew Thompson wrote:

Looks ..functional but extremely ugly in NN 4.08.

You could hide positioning styles for them, and serve them plain HTML...

That's what I do, unless I misunderstand you. The styling is entirely
contained in external CSS files.

What about setting font-family and
BG/FG-color for old browsers though..
could that hurt?

--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology