x-browser test: translucent background

Andrew Thompson wrote:

What about setting font-family and
BG/FG-color for old browsers though..
could that hurt?

It'd hurt all the other things I could be doing with my time, and add an
additional file and associated bandwidth to every request.

Anyone using Netscape 4.x or similar antiquity browsers can put up with
default font on a default background. If they don't like that look, they
can change their browser defaults.

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not being a browser snob, and my site will
work just fine in anything that can render straight HTML 4.01. I'm just
not going to jump through even more hoops to fake up some minor
appearance "improvement" for ancient browsers.

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Mark.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:48:13 +0100, Mark Tranchant wrote:

Andrew Thompson wrote:

What about setting font-family and
BG/FG-color for old browsers though..
could that hurt?

It'd hurt all the other things I could be doing with my time, and add an
additional file and associated bandwidth to every request.
...
..I'm just
not going to jump through even more hoops to fake up some minor
appearance "improvement" for ancient browsers.

Considered response, and ..fair enough.

Some of the constraints you mentioned do
not apply in my case (I can make a change to
base documents that automatically update
everything else), so I might explore it
further on a different thread.

Your site looks great, BTW.
[ In post 'Dinosaur' browsers. ;-) ]

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In article <v_Xwc.11970$NK4.1617145 (AT) stones (DOT) force9.net>,
Mark Tranchant <mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

I've implemented what I believe to be a nice-looking translucent
background for the menu on my site. This is done with an
alpha-transparency PNG, overridden with an alternate-pixels
binary-transparency GIF (yuk) for IE and anything else that can't read
CSS ">" selectors properly.

Please take a look, and let me know if it gives you any problems,
stating browser version and OS. I'd be interested in any other feedback
on the site, which is halfway through a re-design.

Thanks!

Mac OS X 10.3.4--
Only problem was with Mac IE 5.2.3. Screenshot at:
<http://my.vbe.com/~mbrought/screenshots/MacIE5.2.3translucent.jpg>.
Worked fine on Mozilla 1.6, Firefox 0.8, Safari 1.2.2, Camina 0.8b, and
even iCab 2.9.8. I didn't try Lynx. ;-))

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Matt Broughton
Only relatives are absolute.

Matt Broughton wrote:

In article <v_Xwc.11970$NK4.1617145 (AT) stones (DOT) force9.net>,
Mark Tranchant <mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

Mac OS X 10.3.4--
Only problem was with Mac IE 5.2.3. Screenshot at:
http://my.vbe.com/~mbrought/screenshots/MacIE5.2.3translucent.jpg>.

Maybe this would help?

/* IE-win can't see this next one, so it uses "absolute"
from above */

/* Hide from IE5-mac \*/
body>#lbox, body>.lbox {
background-image: url(/images/menubg);
position: fixed;
}
/* End IE5/mac hide */



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In message <v_Xwc.11970$NK4.1617145 (AT) stones (DOT) force9.net>, Mark Tranchant
<mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> writes

http://tranchant.plus.com/

I've implemented what I believe to be a nice-looking translucent
background for the menu on my site. This is done with an
alpha-transparency PNG, overridden with an alternate-pixels
binary-transparency GIF (yuk) for IE and anything else that can't read
CSS ">" selectors properly.

Please take a look, and let me know if it gives you any problems,
stating browser version and OS. I'd be interested in any other feedback
on the site, which is halfway through a re-design.

Thanks!

Wording needs changing?

http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/ng/DN1X.JPG

regards
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:30:28 +0100, Mark Tranchant
<mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> declared in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design:

Watch me not care.

Sounds like an idea for a reality TV show...

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http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

jake wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

Wording needs changing?

http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/ng/DN1X.JPG

Pedants, the lot of you! I've added "or you are using a user
stylesheet": happy now?!

;-)

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Mark.

Els wrote:

Matt Broughton wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

Mac OS X 10.3.4--
Only problem was with Mac IE 5.2.3. Screenshot at:
http://my.vbe.com/~mbrought/screenshots/MacIE5.2.3translucent.jpg>.

Maybe this would help?

/* IE-win can't see this next one, so it uses "absolute" from above */

/* Hide from IE5-mac \*/
body>#lbox, body>.lbox {
background-image: url(/images/menubg);
position: fixed;
}
/* End IE5/mac hide */

Thanks, implemented. Could someone (Matt?) check that the menu bg is
translucent now, please?

TIA.

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Mark.

In message <5Edxc.12266$NK4.1696339 (AT) stones (DOT) force9.net>, Mark Tranchant
<mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> writes

jake wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

Wording needs changing?
http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/ng/DN1X.JPG

Pedants, the lot of you! I've added "or you are using a user
stylesheet": happy now?!

;-)

Hmmmm ..... yes ......... sort of ......... I guess ;-)

--
Jake

Brian wrote:

Mark Tranchant wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/

I've implemented what I believe to be a nice-looking translucent
background for the menu on my site.

Hmm. Why don't I see any image at all? Firefox 0.8/WinXP.

He's probably working on it, as it was there earlier today.


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