What do you think?

I'm in the process of redesigning my website and wanted your opinions. None
of the links are active yet and I'm not really bothered with HTML errors at
this moment, I'm just interested in how the site appears.

http://www.sandj.34sp.com/botw/

Cheers,

Richard

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:38:58 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Terry"
<miketerry (AT) ukrivals (DOT) net> wrote:

I'm in the process of redesigning my website and wanted your opinions. None
of the links are active yet and I'm not really bothered with HTML errors at
this moment, I'm just interested in how the site appears.

http://www.sandj.34sp.com/botw/

Richard

Well Richard/Mike (?),

The trouble is that HTML errors may affect different browsers
differently, and thus render any comments moot.

My initial comments are:
- on my screen the text is too small for comfortable reading. See
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/fontsize.html

- the display is a fixed width, and ignores the size of the reader's
window. Define the width of the columns left and right (using ems, not
pixels) and let the reader's browser sort out the width of the centre
column. You should probably make the graphic at the top of the centre
column rather narrower to increase this flexibility.

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/

On Wed, Jun 25, Shawn K. Quinn inscribed on the eternal scroll:

Get rid of all the font sizes specified in px units.

Would someone care to convey that message to ActiveState?

Their installed Perl includes HTML-ised documentation with a horrible
stylesheet, which starts by sizing the body at 70%, and table cell
contents at 70% of that, but then goes on to style various other
things in a muddle of px and pt units, including some 7pt and other
fly-droppings.

After scrolling through screen after screen of this counter-productive
stylesheet, commenting out each and every explicit size, the
documentation got much more readable. I had half a mind to turn their
goddamned stylesheet off entirely. I don't really have the patience
to compose a diplomatic missive telling them politely what idiots they
are - too often I've had such diplomatic reports merely passed on to
the very person who was at fault in the first place, who of course
then drops it incomprehendingly into their WPB. Sigh.

In message <Pine.LNX.4.53.0306261414480.6298 (AT) lxplus090 (DOT) cern.ch> on
Thursday June 26 2003 07:22, Alan J. Flavell wrote:

On Wed, Jun 25, Shawn K. Quinn inscribed on the eternal scroll:

Get rid of all the font sizes specified in px units.

Would someone care to convey that message to ActiveState?

Their installed Perl includes HTML-ised documentation with a horrible
stylesheet, which starts by sizing the body at 70%, and table cell
contents at 70% of that, but then goes on to style various other
things in a muddle of px and pt units, including some 7pt and other
fly-droppings.

Sounds like a *lot* of cluelessly-designed stylesheets, unfortunately.
Even sizing the body font size at 70% is clueless enough, because it's
always 30% smaller than what the user selected.

After scrolling through screen after screen of this counter-productive
stylesheet, commenting out each and every explicit size, the
documentation got much more readable.

Which is to be expected. One wonders why they really need to include a
stylesheet at all.

I had half a mind to turn their goddamned stylesheet off entirely. I
don't really have the patience to compose a diplomatic missive telling
them politely what idiots they are - too often I've had such
diplomatic reports merely passed on to the very person who was at
fault in the first place, who of course then drops it
incomprehendingly into their WPB. Sigh.

What I need to find is an authoritative page on why using absolute units
such as px and pt in an author stylesheet is bad practice. I've been
looking for one, as I am slowly but surely (re)building a list of
Web-authoring-related bookmarks now that I'm getting back into it again
(this time probably to stay).

As another example, the stylesheet at <URL:http://www.evolt.org/> is
nearly as clueless, assuming for the most part that 12px (or a bit
bigger/smaller) is good enough for everybody (which it really isn't if
you happen to be running 1400x1050). You'd hope a site just for
Webmasters would do better than that.

--
Shawn K. Quinn

Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn (AT) speakeasy (DOT) net> wrote:

What I need to find is an authoritative page on why using absolute units
such as px and pt in an author stylesheet is bad practice.

Are you familiar with <http://css.nu/faq/ciwas-aFAQ.html#QA02>?
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