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Barbara de Zoete
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-09-2005 , 04:43 AM






[ as copy/pasted out of my private e-mailbox ]

Henri <henri.baeyens (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr>, zondag 8 mei 2005 9:51:32:

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On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:01:27 +0200, Barbara de Zoete
b_de_zoete (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Sat, 7 May 2005 11:47:27 +0200, Henri <henri.baeyens (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr
wrote:

www.premiumwanadoo.com/4thconstruct

Well, eurhm...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.premiumwanadoo.com%2F4t hconstruct%2F
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.premiumwanadoo.com% 2F4thconstruct%2Fcss%2Fstyles.css&warning=no&profi le=css2&usermedium=all
45 Mistakes in your markup and 6 in your styles.css; not *too* bad, I
presume :-(

good. I thought I had even more.
Firstly, don't respond to my private e-mailbox. You're killfiled in there
now. A discussion started in here, stays here. No exceptions.

Secondly, don't be a smartass where you think no one sees it happening.
Just fix you faulty mess before asking for a review.


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Henri
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-09-2005 , 05:56 AM







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Firstly, don't respond to my private e-mailbox. You're killfiled in there
now. A discussion started in here, stays here. No exceptions.

I pressed the wrong button, I certainly did not intend to send anything to
your private box.

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Secondly, don't be a smartass where you think no one sees it happening.
Just fix you faulty mess before asking for a review.


What's up your ass? Bad hair day?




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Henri
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-09-2005 , 06:09 AM



well, I'm not putting up a search engine. And the number of people who turn
off js is minimal.

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It is a usability issue. Some people disable Javascript for security
reasons. Other "users" are search engines like Google, Inktomi, MSN and
Yahoo that by definition do not use Javascript. Then there are the
non-visual human users.
Javascript can add flash and glitz to a site. But a site's basic
usability should not depend on it.

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Default Re: Site review please - 05-09-2005 , 06:15 AM



"Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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[ as copy/pasted out of my private e-mailbox ]
I for one don't need or want to see your responses to private email
posted on usenet. Note also that publicly disclosing information sent to
you privately without prior approval by the other party is considered
extremely bad form. Regardless of possible prior disrespect by others of
your *personal* idea of how people should respond to publicly posted
messages.

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Barbara de Zoete
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-09-2005 , 06:17 AM



On Mon, 9 May 2005 12:09:59 +0200, Henri <henri.baeyens (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr> wrote:

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well, I'm not putting up a search engine. And the number of people who
turn off js is minimal.

How is it that every stoooopid dezigner is too stupid to understand
anything said to him (m/f), but still manages to find this groups (or
equivalents)?

Sigh

*plonk*

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weblog | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_private/weblog.html |
webontwerp | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp.html |
zweefvliegen | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/vliegen.html |
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Barbara de Zoete
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-09-2005 , 06:21 AM



On Mon, 09 May 2005 10:15:30 GMT, Spartanicus <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid>
wrote:

Quote:
"Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

[ as copy/pasted out of my private e-mailbox ]

I for one don't need or want to see your responses to private email
posted on usenet.

Then don't read beyond that first line.

Quote:
Note also that publicly disclosing information sent to
you privately without prior approval by the other party is considered
extremely bad form.

By you personally, that is.

Quote:
Regardless of possible prior disrespect by others of
your *personal* idea of how people should respond to publicly posted
messages.

So, we disagree and live happily ever after.

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weblog | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_private/weblog.html |
webontwerp | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp.html |
zweefvliegen | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/vliegen.html |
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Mark Tranchant
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-09-2005 , 06:21 AM



Henri wrote:
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well, I'm not putting up a search engine.
No, what is meant is that Google does not run Javascript found on pages
it is indexing. If you want Google to find you, don't rely on Javascript.

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And the number of people who turn
off js is minimal.
....and therefore don't matter? Why, when it is so easy to write sites
that don't rely on it, do you not do so?

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Henri
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-10-2005 , 04:54 AM




Quote:
How is it that every stoooopid dezigner is too stupid to understand
anything said to him (m/f), but still manages to find this groups (or
equivalents)?

yeah, maybe you're right; should I really care about some obnoxious anal
wankers?




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Henri
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-10-2005 , 05:05 AM



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Says who? Is this 'in your experience' or is it based on some proper
analysis?
on my own stats (for 3 different sites), between 2% and 5%.




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Henri
 
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Default Re: Site review please - 05-10-2005 , 05:52 AM




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No, what is meant is that Google does not run Javascript found on pages
it is indexing. If you want Google to find you, don't rely on Javascript.

I know it does not, but it does not matter since the content is in the page
(it is not generated); it just sits on an invisible layers which is shown
when it's content is fully loaded. Spiders are not very smart.

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And the number of people who turn off js is minimal.

...and therefore don't matter? Why, when it is so easy to write sites that
don't rely on it, do you not do so?

it depends on the target audience and on the type of site. you can bend the
rules.




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