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marek
 
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Default SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 04:55 AM






How can i do seo of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com (no photos descriptions) ?

I am cleaning cleaning html with tidy, have proper descritions.
keywords and title different for each page (depends on
gallery/photo title).

I got site map and news page.

In head there are document relations (prev, next, start, toc ...)

I do nice url-rewrite.

What can i do more to get better seo optimalization?

Thx in advance

Marek Pulczynski (site webmaster, not photographer)
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http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com

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Andrew Thompson
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 05:17 AM






On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:55:30 +0200, marek wrote:

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How can i do seo ..
Search Engine Optimisaton? ..I had to gdo a quick google
before I realised you were not talking about 'Senior
Executive Officers' (OK - I have spent far too much time
around 80's corporate types..)

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..of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com
I'd have thought the 'alt' attributes currently used, E.G.

<img alt='photo "Azure Damsel Fly"' ..

...might go some way to achieving that.

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marek
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 06:15 AM



Andrew Thompson wrote:

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Search Engine Optimisaton? not talking about 'Senior
Executive Officers'
LOL

Quote:
..of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com

I'd have thought the 'alt' attributes currently used, E.G.

img alt='photo "Azure Damsel Fly"' ..

..might go some way to achieving that.

Yes those basic kind of thing are done already.

where to go further?


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Mark Tranchant
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 06:28 AM



marek wrote:
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How can i do seo of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com (no photos descriptions) ?
Nice site, BTW.

There's no significant text content, which is what engines index on.
What searches do you want to target? "Gerbera tulips"? Hm, that doesn't
work. You're third for "sepia gerbera tulips spain" on Google at the
moment. Most people won't be using that as a search string.

Get some decent text content, but don't lose sleep over it. I used to
rank very highly for a number of highly competitive subjects like
"guitar chords" and "digital zoom", but on June 8, for no apparent
reason, I dropped right off the rankings. I still have third for
"apostraphe" (sic).

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Spartanicus
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 06:55 AM



marek <jasam (AT) 126 (DOT) pl> wrote:

Quote:
How can i do seo of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com (no photos descriptions) ?

I am cleaning cleaning html with tidy, have proper descritions.
keywords and title different for each page (depends on
gallery/photo title).

I got site map and news page.

In head there are document relations (prev, next, start, toc ...)

I do nice url-rewrite.

What can i do more to get better seo optimalization?
Not targeted at SEO, but advisable anyway:

Dump the browser sniffing, it's sooooo lame (and fails here).
Externalize CSS.
Transitional went out of fashion in 1996.
Provide proper structure with headers used in order.
A list of headers is incorrect markup.
Access keys do more harm than good.

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marek
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 07:57 AM



Spartanicus wrote:

Quote:
How can i do seo of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com (no photos descriptions) ?
Not targeted at SEO, but advisable anyway:


Dump the browser sniffing, it's sooooo lame (and fails here).
What do you mean by 'browser sniffing'? There is no js script
(except close window at highest resolution). I dont change code
depending on browser (maybe tidy does?)

Quote:
Externalize CSS.
Is externalized except for 'about, sitemap, links and news'. Does
that matter when css will be used exactly for one page (smaller
document?) ?

Quote:
Transitional went out of fashion in 1996.
right changed to strict

Quote:
Provide proper structure with headers used in order.
A list of headers is incorrect markup.
I'll change the order.
What do you mean by "incorrect markup" ? Its tidied!

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Access keys do more harm than good.
You mean taking place giving not much functionality?

Marek




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marek
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 08:00 AM



Mark Tranchant wrote:

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marek wrote:
How can i do seo of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com (no photos descriptions) ?

Nice site, BTW.
Thx, design is not by me

Quote:
There's no significant text content, which is what engines index
on. What searches do you want to target? "Gerbera tulips"? Hm,
that doesn't work. You're third for "sepia gerbera tulips spain"
i am not (not in google accesible from poland).
The site was is being crawled by google but google shows old content
(look at the links in google - no mod rewrite)

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third for "apostraphe" (sic).

wow
I would like pepole searching images of flowers in spain get to this
site Dont want to seo it to be on first place whern searching
"photo"

Marek


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Spartanicus
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 08:52 AM



marek <jasam (AT) 126 (DOT) pl> wrote:

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Dump the browser sniffing, it's sooooo lame (and fails here).

What do you mean by 'browser sniffing'? There is no js script
(except close window at highest resolution). I dont change code
depending on browser
Something does depending on UA id, this is what I see:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/spartanicus/temp.png

That's a screencap from Opera, same thing happens when using FF, unless
I allow it to reveal itself as such (which I don't normally).

Quote:
Externalize CSS.

Is externalized except for 'about, sitemap, links and news'. Does
that matter when css will be used exactly for one page (smaller
document?) ?
There's more to it than that. For example maintainability suffers when
not externalized.

Quote:
Provide proper structure with headers used in order.
A list of headers is incorrect markup.
I'll change the order.
What do you mean by "incorrect markup" ? Its tidied!
Tidy is a linter, passing it's checking routines does not mean that your
code correct, it doesn't even mean that your code is valid. Correct
markup cannot be verified by automated tools like tidy or a validator,
it requires a proper understanding of the markup. The following is valid
and will pass a check with tidy:

<body>
<p style="font:bold 200% sans-serif">My Web site</p>

But it's likely incorrect.

Quote:
Access keys do more harm than good.

You mean taking place giving not much functionality?
I can't parse that sentence. Coding access keys conflicts with UA
defaults, leave it to the UA.

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Adrienne
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 11:41 AM



Gazing into my crystal ball I observed marek <jasam (AT) 126 (DOT) pl> writing in
news:dcaa2v$npg$1 (AT) nemesis (DOT) news.tpi.pl:

Quote:
How can i do seo of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com (no photos descriptions) ?

I am cleaning cleaning html with tidy, have proper descritions.
keywords and title different for each page (depends on
gallery/photo title).

I got site map and news page.

In head there are document relations (prev, next, start, toc ...)

I do nice url-rewrite.

What can i do more to get better seo optimalization?

Thx in advance

Marek Pulczynski (site webmaster, not photographer)
--------------------
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com
In addition to what others have said, you could provide a description of
each photo in a div below the image. Bots would definately pick that up.

You could also add a bit of text below the image on the index page,
something describing the business, about the photographer, etc.

On the photo pages themselves, the up arrow was not obvious to me as a
means to get back to the index page. You might want to put text under the
Up and Next and Previous arrows for people like me who can never figure out
which is the close door button or open door button in the elevator.

You should also try alt.internet.search-engines, plenty of good advice over
there.

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Jim Moe
 
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Default Re: SEO of photography site http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com - 07-28-2005 , 12:13 PM



marek wrote:
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How can i do seo of photography site
http://www.arkadiuszkotlewski.com (no photos descriptions) ?

Add an <h1> element to each page.
Change the content a little every few weeks. Search engines like active
sites.

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