Review on article on website design required

Pascal Chevrel wrote:

Le 29/06/2003 01:59, John Bokma a écrit :

[strict DTD, no deprecated markup]

Working on that, moving to XHTML, some pages have been done (index.html
for example).

[tables for layout]

I stick to those to get a header + image on top. I removed the "main
text in table cell(s)" however. I couldn't get the <div> + CSS rigth in
all browsers and no, I am not going to use CSS hacks like:

http://www.phespirit.info/cafe/css_hacks.htm

Sorry, but that is moving crap to a different location :-) (Yes, it is a
single location at that :-).

Tables don't work with Internet Explorer 2 or Mosaic, how far do you
want to go back ? All current browsers support <div>.

NS 4.51 and IE 4.0. I don't think older browsers have visited my site or
will.

[snip Fonts]

changed the face to the generic sans-serif. Leave the size as is, only
use <small> very sparingly and *not* in the main body of text.

[quoting *all* attrs]

It's invalid in XHTML.

Done in all my XHTML pages.

Thanks all for a lot of wise words :-)

John

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Stephen Poley wrote:

[snip Font size]

Because it appears bigger, perhaps?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/fontsize.html may give you some
food for thought.

Thanks, I no longer change the font size for "normal" text and use the
generic "sans-serif" as face.

John

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Stephen Poley wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 03:48:25 +0200, John Bokma
postmaster (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

[snip <div> ]

It is my understanding that NS 4.x and MS IE 5.x have problems with DIV.
I want to support IE 4.x and NS 4.x as much as possible.


Not with DIV as such, but with CSS.

Yeah, that was what I ment: <div> in combination with CSS.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/netscape4.html may help a bit.

Thanks. For now I stick to one table for the "header" of my page and
sometimes to show images with text (in a table format so I don't see a
problem there).

I still use NS 4.51 on my laptop which is too slow and has a bad
installed Windows 95 on it hence, I can't move to anything else. I might
put debian on it since it seems very hard to get the UK version of the
rescue CD [1] :-(.


John

[1] Acer extensa 367T, now with *two* Dutch rescue CDs

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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 02:19:44 +0200, John Bokma <postmaster (AT) castleamber (DOT) com>
wrote:

<snip>

I still use NS 4.51 on my laptop which is too slow and has a bad
installed Windows 95 on it hence, I can't move to anything else. I might
put debian on it since it seems very hard to get the UK version of the
rescue CD [1] :-(.
Opera is usually a good choice for limited-resources computers. Works

nicely even on my PI with 80 MB RAM.

Lars

Lars G. Svensson wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 02:19:44 +0200, John Bokma
postmaster (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

snip

I still use NS 4.51 on my laptop which is too slow and has a bad
installed Windows 95 on it hence, I can't move to anything else. I
might put debian on it since it seems very hard to get the UK version
of the rescue CD [1] :-(.

Opera is usually a good choice for limited-resources computers. Works
nicely even on my PI with 80 MB RAM.

Sadly I have a 200MMX + 32 MB laptop which means that everything recent
is a resource taker on it :-(.

John

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