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Default Re: Please check this site - 11-28-2007 , 06:46 PM






Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
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So, back to the drawing board for a menu system that doesn't require
that.

While you're there, could you do me a favor?

Could you fix your link hovering so it doesn't make the enter rest of
the page jump around? I waved the mouse around a bit and thought I was
getting a palsy or sumpin'. The change to italic font isn't pleasant
either. You might have to .. um .. dump that arrow that appears. :-)
Yeah, not the first time I've heard that. I still can't reproduce it
here. Yes, if my cursor is just positioned "just so" on one link ...
but I can't ever see the whole page hopping around. Still, I've heard
it enough that I will think about abandoning the technique.

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Changing the background color and nothing else on hover seems to work
well.

Yep, I may just go back to something simple like that.

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Otherwise, the site is nice.
Thanks. It's a hobby. Keeps me off the streets at night.

You're having your 40th reunion next year
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.. my 50th is in '09.
<g> Yeah. My second time as a reunion coordinator. If I could just
get these people to update their freaking address data! Well, should be
fun. Some of the nerds have turned out to be really nice folks. Some
of the "in crowd" folks have also turned out to be great. And some of
the a****s are still. You'da thought they'd have learned /something/
from the 60s and ensuing 40 years. Sheesh. ;-)

Thanks again for your thoughts and comments on the site. It is very
helpful.

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Default Re: Please check this site - 11-28-2007 , 06:55 PM






Blinky the Shark wrote:
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Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.
Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).
Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see if
you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down the
links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main
Right. I get the subdrops but they don't lead to pages.

buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the link
show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with Konqueror but
I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the destination of a link you
hover over.
clicketyclick

Well, fsck me runnin'. I had js disabled. I'm very sorry to raise a
note of concern over something like that.
No problem. But, uh, that's /really/ interesting! The whole point of
the mods I made to the site were to get rid of the javascript which was
used for the menus and the browser detection! The menus are now created
Urk!

server-side using PHP includes. And the browser detect is an IE
conditional comment that simply serves any IE version less than 7 with a
very slightly altered style sheet (it simply changes the body top margin
and the fixed position of the menu header div to relative).

I just turned off javascript in SeaMonkey, IE7 and Firfeox and the menus
(and all else) work perfectly.

Yikes! I just tried it on a test box with IE6 and javascript turned off
and I don't even get the drop downs. Crap!

Internet Options - Security Tab - Custom Level - Scripting - Active
Scripting off. Go to edmullen.net. No drop downs.

Turn Active Scripting on. Go to edmullen.net. Everything works. Using
the DebugBar addon for IE6 and look at the Scripts section and it shows
no scripts loaded. Same thing if Active Scripting turned off.

I'm stumped. At least until I get some more time to puzzle this one out.

Thanks, Blinky. <sigh
Well, now I'm torn between being glad and sad about opening this can of
worms for you. You can't fix something you don't know about...but you
were happy as a clam, before.

But do you know what's worse? Much worse? Today, with Konqueror and js
DISabled your menus work fine (i.e., they take me somewhere). I
certainly cannot explain this.

Y'know, I totally forgot, until I was exploring this, that the list of
moz newsgroups to which I've referred when I had the occasional brain
fart and to which I've referred others to, was yours.

See my response above this message. I'm kinda screwed regarding IE6-
(thanks for helping me discover that!) but I am totally perplexed why
Konqueror failed *unless* you happened to be UA spoofing IE6 at the time?

It wasn't. I haven't changed UA reporting.

Copy/Paste from Konqeror config:

Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.4; Linux) KHTML/3.4.2 (like Gecko)


Oh well.

Back in the day at WPSX we had forms to fill out when "stuff" happened.
One was actually titled: Functional Anomaly Report (which I always
liked to refer to as "the FAR OUT report"). Meaning: Shit didn't work
right, we have no idea why! The production crew delighted in filling
them out as it caused the engineers no end of grief. Then I realized
that I liked the engineers because they taught me a lot and saved my
butt when I dove into the empty pool head first. I guess I was growing
up faster than my production compatriots. :-)

And I still can solder together Tip-Ring-Sleeve and XLR (A3F/M) cables
with the best of them! Heck, even DB-9s etc. Geez. I gotta get a
life! It scares me that I even know the term "D-sub connector." Not to
mention "Centronics." Sigh. Definitely time for another drink.

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http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Why does a cowboy have two spurs? If one side of the horse goes, so does
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Default Re: Please check this site [OT] - 11-28-2007 , 07:26 PM



Ed Mullen wrote:

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Back in the day at WPSX we had forms to fill out when "stuff"
happened. One was actually titled: Functional Anomaly Report (which
I always liked to refer to as "the FAR OUT report"). Meaning: Shit
didn't work right, we have no idea why! The production crew delighted
in filling them out as it caused the engineers no end of grief. Then
I realized that I liked the engineers because they taught me a lot and
saved my butt when I dove into the empty pool head first. I guess I
was growing up faster than my production compatriots. :-)
Engineers were there to save our asses. I always treated them well.

At Master Control, as undoubtedly at your air position, we had to fill
out discrepancy reports explaining the reason(s) any event began or
ended more than 2 seconds from the Traffic Department schedules we were
working from. This was in the upper midwest, but we still ran a couple
Mexican shows. Once when I had to write up a discrep for one of those
that was mistimed and therefore ended earlier than its ending on the
schedule so I had to run a couple of Public Service Announcements (one
or two of which was always hung on the film chain for emergencies), I
wrote it in Spanish.

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And I still can solder together Tip-Ring-Sleeve and XLR (A3F/M) cables
with the best of them! Heck, even DB-9s etc. Geez. I gotta get a
life! It scares me that I even know the term "D-sub connector." Not
to mention "Centronics." Sigh. Definitely time for another drink.
Well, at least some of those still apply in computing.


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Default Re: Please check this site [OT] - 11-28-2007 , 07:59 PM



Blinky the Shark wrote:
Quote:
Ed Mullen wrote:

Back in the day at WPSX we had forms to fill out when "stuff"
happened. One was actually titled: Functional Anomaly Report (which
I always liked to refer to as "the FAR OUT report"). Meaning: Shit
didn't work right, we have no idea why! The production crew delighted
in filling them out as it caused the engineers no end of grief. Then
I realized that I liked the engineers because they taught me a lot and
saved my butt when I dove into the empty pool head first. I guess I
was growing up faster than my production compatriots. :-)

Engineers were there to save our asses. I always treated them well.
Agreed! Actually, they became my best friends at the station.
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At Master Control, as undoubtedly at your air position, we had to fill
out discrepancy reports
LOL. Yep, we called them that too. Lest the FCC audit us.

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explaining the reason(s) any event began or
ended more than 2 seconds from the Traffic Department schedules we were
working from. This was in the upper midwest, but we still ran a couple
Mexican shows. Once when I had to write up a discrep for one of those
that was mistimed and therefore ended earlier than its ending on the
schedule so I had to run a couple of Public Service Announcements (one
or two of which was always hung on the film chain for emergencies), I
wrote it in Spanish.
Ok, now there has to be a story in here! What was management's
reaction? Oh. Maybe that's the point? None?

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And I still can solder together Tip-Ring-Sleeve and XLR (A3F/M) cables
with the best of them! Heck, even DB-9s etc. Geez. I gotta get a
life! It scares me that I even know the term "D-sub connector." Not
to mention "Centronics." Sigh. Definitely time for another drink.

Well, at least some of those still apply in computing.
They apply but, thank God, cables have become so ubiquitous and cheap
that I no longer make anything but custom network cables. and I guess I
really only do that so I don't forget how!

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http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
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afraid to have Chapter 11?


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Default Re: Please check this site [OT] - 11-29-2007 , 02:39 AM



Ed Mullen wrote:
Quote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:

At Master Control, as undoubtedly at your air position, we had to
fill out discrepancy reports

LOL. Yep, we called them that too. Lest the FCC audit us.

explaining the reason(s) any event began or ended more than 2 seconds
from the Traffic Department schedules we were working from. This was
in the upper midwest, but we still ran a couple Mexican shows. Once
when I had to write up a discrep for one of those that was mistimed
and therefore ended earlier than its ending on the schedule so I had
to run a couple of Public Service Announcements (one or two of which
was always hung on the film chain for emergencies), I wrote it in
Spanish.

Ok, now there has to be a story in here! What was management's
reaction? Oh. Maybe that's the point? None?
Never heard a word from them. It was a small station, and I was friends
with all of them. We partied together and such.

I also *fell asleep* during one long, god-awful boring network feed
broadcast in German, once, and woke up - HORRORS! - in network black.
The sched showed that the awful show had ended at least a minute before
I woke up to the silence. I rolled the first 16mm PSA film I had hung on
the film chain to buy time, got my bearings and finished the break
cleanly. And wrote up the discrep honestly. The Operations Manager
complimented me on my honesty, through his chuckles -- he knew how awful
the show was.

I was just glad that net was feeing that silent black -- rather than
switching over to a pre-feed of the setup for some upcoming feed where
the audio guys were checking mics and two stagehands were still moving
the furniture around.


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Default Re: Please check this site [OT] - 11-29-2007 , 03:11 PM



Blinky the Shark wrote:
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Ed Mullen wrote:

I woke up to the silence. I rolled the first 16mm PSA film I had hung on
the film chain to buy time, got my bearings and finished the break
cleanly. And wrote up the discrep honestly. The Operations Manager
complimented me on my honesty, through his chuckles -- he knew how awful
the show was.
Love it!
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I was just glad that net was feeing that silent black -- rather than
switching over to a pre-feed of the setup for some upcoming feed where
the audio guys were checking mics and two stagehands were still moving
the furniture around.
Or, even worse, if the NOC started feeding "Debbie Does Dallas" as a
"private showing" as ours did once. :-)


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Default Re: Please check this site [OT] - 11-29-2007 , 05:38 PM



Ed Mullen wrote:
Quote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:

I woke up to the silence. I rolled the first 16mm PSA film I had hung on
the film chain to buy time, got my bearings and finished the break
cleanly. And wrote up the discrep honestly. The Operations Manager
complimented me on my honesty, through his chuckles -- he knew how awful
the show was.

Love it!

I was just glad that net was feeing that silent black -- rather than
switching over to a pre-feed of the setup for some upcoming feed where
the audio guys were checking mics and two stagehands were still moving
the furniture around.

Or, even worse, if the NOC started feeding "Debbie Does Dallas" as a
"private showing" as ours did once. :-)
OOPS!


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