Looking for a good & cheap designer builder

"Rikkity Splitte" <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov> wrote

"Karl Core" <karl (AT) NOSPAMkarlcore (DOT) com> wrote in message
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As a matter of fact, the last
couple posts that have been on here might just drive me to send a contact
to
that company informing them that one of their "contractors" is posting
messages like a 12-year-old on a public newsgroup.

Go ahead and do it. And they'll laugh at you for being such a stupidass
usenet kook that you'd call them to bitch about some meanie posting messages
ON HIS OWN TIME that you didn't like.

Your contribution to this group has been "hey, use i-frames. They're better
than frames".
Way to go, dumbass.

Did you pick up the phone yet? Did you call someone about the usenet-
meanie? Maybe when you get done calling Silverpoint, you can call my ISP,
too. Maybe Congress can stop the people from disagreeing with each other.
CALL SOMEONE! Someone has to be able to stop people from saying things that
"Rikkity Splitte" doesn't like!!!

--

Karl Groves
http://www.karlcore.com

"Rikkity Splitte" <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov> wrote

"Neal" <neal413 (AT) spamrcn (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:58:46 GMT, Rikkity Splitte <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov
wrote:

I'm sorry, but to think that someone pays you $40 for a site like the
"resume'" site you have up is astounding.

You could enlighten us as to what's wrong with it. To me, it's clean,
accessible, good-looking yet not pretentious design.

Agreed. Like I said, just my opinion. To be honest, I actually LIKE the
simplicity of it, but it isn't very original-looking. Looks like
something
done with a Front Page Theme.

Let's see your work, Mr. Artist.


But I wouldn't pay $40/hour for it. Simply

because that's not the going rate here where I am. and even if it were,
if
I'm gonna pay that much, I want something that catches the eye...not all
full of flash crap, just something that makes the person say "Wow, nice
website". The band site really threw me off. Did they REALLY want it to
LOOK like that?

Apparently, you can't read very well.
SITE NAME: Fighting Chance
URL: http://www.fightingchancemd.com
DATE: In Progress

As in- THE SITE ISN'T EVEN DONE AND UP.
The page thats at the domain name right now is a placeholder that the singer
put up



--

Karl Groves
http://www.karlcore.com

"Karl Core" <karl (AT) NOSPAMkarlcore (DOT) com> wrote

"Rikkity Splitte" <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov> wrote in message
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Go ahead and do it. And they'll laugh at you for being such a stupidass
usenet kook that you'd call them to bitch about some meanie posting
messages
ON HIS OWN TIME that you didn't like.

*snip*

Your contribution to this group has been "hey, use i-frames. They're
better
than frames". Way to go, dumbass.

Ummm...obviously you aren't very good at reading. I was the one who ASKED
the question. I'm a businessman trying to learn how to build a website, so
the iframes comment isn't mine ... Learn to read before ya speak up, because
ou are trying to insult me for an answer that someone else gave to me.

Rik

"Karl Core" <karl (AT) NOSPAMkarlcore (DOT) com> wrote

Go ahead and do it. And they'll laugh at you for being such a stupidass
usenet kook that you'd call them to bitch about some meanie posting
messages
ON HIS OWN TIME that you didn't like.

Hmmm ...

Actually, I did contact silverpoint, via email, just that after posting my
message saying that he should do that ... Here is what I was told by Frank
LeCates, Managing Director Silverpoint, Inc:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"I appreciate your email. Karl Groves is not an employee. In fact, he
never was an employee of our company. We hired him about a year ago to do
some minor contract work on a few websites, including our own. While his
work product was acceptable, in the end we found the process of working with
him to be difficult in a number of ways and on a number of levels and
terminated our arrangement with him shortly after a brief 1-2 month stint of
part-time contract work.

Since then, he has been unresponsive to our requests to remove references to
our company and our projects from his website.

We have no current relationship with Karl. I would encourage you not to
associate him with Silverpoint, because there is no relations between him
and us"
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------

Hmmm... So it would seem that they also have a problem with you, yet you
still claim them as a reference on your website. This is actually illegal,
because under contract with them, you have no claim, whatsoever, to anything
to do with those sites and they have told you so. Sad how that works, but
it's the way of the world. You see, I am a businessman, so *I* am smart
enough not to give someone that right over my work, which, btw, has nothing
to do with building websites...as of yet, I have only done that as a hobby.

The subject wasn't whether or not you or I are better at building websites.
The subject was whether your immature attitude was helping the man who asked
the question.

To be honest, I simply came here looking for an answer to a problem I was
having building a website. (Your frames comment that went awry.) I could
care less if you want to call people names, that is up to you to decide to
run your business that way. I wish you the best of luck with the band site.

Rik

"Rikkity Splitte" <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov> wrote

"Karl Core" <karl (AT) NOSPAMkarlcore (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Go ahead and do it. And they'll laugh at you for being such a stupidass
usenet kook that you'd call them to bitch about some meanie posting
messages
ON HIS OWN TIME that you didn't like.

Hmmm ...

Actually, I did contact silverpoint, via email, just that after posting my
message saying that he should do that ... Here is what I was told by Frank
LeCates, Managing Director Silverpoint, Inc:

<snip usenet kookery>

Wow, what a sad sad little weasel you are, that you would contact someone's
employer (or former employer, or anyone for that matter)
because they said something you didn't like.

You can STILL go fuck yourself.

--

Karl Groves
http://www.karlcore.com

Actually, normally I wouldn't care.

Just thought it was interesting that someone would be trying to GET business
as a web designer and then talking as you do to the people who ask
questions. Anyone with ANY brains is going to check out your references and
the BIGGEST one you used which had the only REAL website content that any
BUSINESS would want is telling me that you are not someone who they would
work with again and that they have asked you to take down the references to
the sites that THEY own, but YOU claim to have done the work on (be it a fix
or what-have-you) and you have not done so. This implies that the $40 per
hour that you tell people also means that YOU own the site content, which
is, of course NOT the case that ANY business is going to allow. When you
build a site for a client, YOU do NOT own (or have any rights to,
whatsoever) that content, so TECHNICALLY, you are plagiarizing. You aren't
even allowed to say "I did that" because, technically, you didn't. The firm
you worked for at the time owns the rights to the ART of the site. (i.e.:
They can claim that they did the work on it.) But they have no rights to the
content. THAT is what the client is PAYING the $40/hr for. Just like a
musician who records a CD for RCA. RCA owns the rights to that
recording...not the musician. The musician may own the rights to the songs,
individually, but not what was put on that album.

So it seems that you are simply one of the thousands who want to claim
things that aren't theirs...

Rik

"Karl Core" <karl (AT) NOSPAMkarlcore (DOT) com> wrote

"Rikkity Splitte" <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov> wrote in message
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"Karl Core" <karl (AT) NOSPAMkarlcore (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Go ahead and do it. And they'll laugh at you for being such a
stupidass
usenet kook that you'd call them to bitch about some meanie posting
messages
ON HIS OWN TIME that you didn't like.

Hmmm ...

Actually, I did contact silverpoint, via email, just that after posting
my
message saying that he should do that ... Here is what I was told by
Frank
LeCates, Managing Director Silverpoint, Inc:

snip usenet kookery

Wow, what a sad sad little weasel you are, that you would contact
someone's
employer (or former employer, or anyone for that matter)
because they said something you didn't like.

You can STILL go fuck yourself.

--

Karl Groves
http://www.karlcore.com

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:53:31 GMT, Rikkity Splitte <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov> wrote:

Actually, normally I wouldn't care.

Just thought it was interesting that someone would be trying to GET
business

Can't this go to email? Speaking for me only, this slapfight is getting
tiresome.

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:57:43 -0500, Neal <neal413 (AT) spamrcn (DOT) com> declared
in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:53:31 GMT, Rikkity Splitte <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov> wrote:

Actually, normally I wouldn't care.

Nor do we.

Can't this go to email? Speaking for me only, this slapfight is getting
tiresome.

Me too. I'm just about ready to killfile both of them, which I don't
_really_ want to do, because Karl's posts are usually quite good. :-S

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

"Mark Parnell" <webmaster (AT) clarkecomputers (DOT) com.au> wrote

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:57:43 -0500, Neal <neal413 (AT) spamrcn (DOT) com> declared
in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:53:31 GMT, Rikkity Splitte <eeps (AT) noway (DOT) gov
wrote:

Actually, normally I wouldn't care.

Nor do we.

Can't this go to email? Speaking for me only, this slapfight is getting
tiresome.

Me too. I'm just about ready to killfile both of them, which I don't
_really_ want to do, because Karl's posts are usually quite good. :-S

thanks mark. i won't be responding to this kook any further. i don't need
to defend myself to some usenet kook like "rikkity splitte", especially
after discussing the matter with an apologetic Frank over at silverpoint.

I'm here to share information with those who need it, and hope that people
feel I've done so. It is also why I place my URL in my sig. If that exposes
me to kooks, well so be it.

And I'm not here to get business, which is why I feel free to speak bluntly.
And if that exposes me to kooks, well so be it.


--

Karl Groves
http://www.karlcore.com