Link to pages you don't like

How do you link to pages you don't like?
I should refer to Elsner & Flake and URW++, who both produce a variety
of non-Roman typefaces. But I dislike their brain-dead homepages based
completely on JavaScript.

Search engines offer me a way to refer to them from a distance:
Elsner & Flake
<http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=%22Your+browser+must+support+Javascript%2 2+%22Greek+Turkish+Cyrillic+and+Hebrew%22>
<http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Your+browser+must+support+Javascript%2 2+%22Greek+Turkish+Cyrillic+and+Hebrew%22>
URW++
<http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=URW+%22your+browser+must+have+JavaScript+ enabled%22>
<http://www.google.com/search?q=URW+%22your+browser+must+have+JavaScript+ enabled%22>

If you look at them, inspect the source of elsner-flake.com!
They have a lot of text in background colour.

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On or around Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:58:53 +0200, there was a message,
possibly from Andreas Prilop <nhtcapri (AT) rrzn-user (DOT) uni-hannover.de>, as
follows:

If you look at them, inspect the source of elsner-flake.com!
They have a lot of text in background colour.

Or highlight the area at the bottom of the page with your mouse.
There's a lot of it!

In article <070720032158530150%nhtcapri (AT) rrzn-user (DOT) uni-hannover.de>,
nhtcapri (AT) rrzn-user (DOT) uni-hannover.de says...

How do you link to pages you don't like?
I should refer to Elsner & Flake and URW++, who both produce a variety
of non-Roman typefaces. But I dislike their brain-dead homepages based
completely on JavaScript.

Search engines offer me a way to refer to them from a distance:
Elsner & Flake
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?q=%2...+and+Hebrew%22
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Yo...+and+Hebrew%22
....

Reading this post, I recalled that I'd recently seen a way of invoking
the "I'm feeling lucky button" automatically - so I've been kind-of
looking for it since. A few minutes ago I remembered where I'd seen it,
found the post in uk.rec.humour - and discovered that the poster was
you!

The trick, for any other interested parties, is eg:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wea...truction&btnI=

Andreas Prilop schrieb:

How do you link to pages you don't like?
I should refer to Elsner & Flake and URW++, who both produce a variety
of non-Roman typefaces. But I dislike their brain-dead homepages based
completely on JavaScript.

"This company produces a good variety of non-Roman typefaces. But be
warned, their website sucks! Here's the direct links to the typefaces:
(direct link to the typefaces to save visitors from that javascript). "


Matthias

Matthias Gutfeldt <worte (AT) gmx (DOT) at> wrote:

"This company produces a good variety of non-Roman typefaces. But be
warned, their website sucks! Here's the direct links to the typefaces:
(direct link to the typefaces to save visitors from that javascript). "

Not even this is possible with Elsner & Flake because there is nothing
but Flash at their site. So Google can find only their index.html:
http://www.google.com/search?q=elsne...sner-flake.com

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On Tue, Jul 8, Matthias Gutfeldt inscribed on the eternal scroll:

(direct link to the typefaces to save visitors from that javascript). "

Problem with giving direct links to pages you don't like is that they
earn credibility points at the indexing services for any external
links that are pointing to them.

There seems to be no way to tell the indexing services "I'm pointing
at that site because I think it's horrible - don't send anyone else
there on my account..."

Andreas Prilop schrieb:

Matthias Gutfeldt <worte (AT) gmx (DOT) at> wrote:

"This company produces a good variety of non-Roman typefaces. But be
warned, their website sucks! Here's the direct links to the typefaces:
(direct link to the typefaces to save visitors from that javascript). "

Not even this is possible with Elsner & Flake because there is nothing
but Flash at their site. So Google can find only their index.html:
http://www.google.com/search?q=elsne...sner-flake.com

The horror! Well, I guess in that case you'll just have tell everybody
to e-mail the company. The address is available at
<http://elsner-flake.com/f1_detection/content.html>, which -I'm sure you
could have guessed- is one gigantic GIF with an imagemap hotspot over
the e-mail link...

This is really a site where the deezainer didn't have a clue about web
design. The author is given as "agentur fuer visuelle kommunikation". It
figures.


Matthias

In article <070720032158530150%nhtcapri (AT) rrzn-user (DOT) uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <nhtcapri (AT) rrzn-user (DOT) uni-hannover.de> wrote:

How do you link to pages you don't like?

Why do you link to them?

I'd never put in an link if I didn't intend at least
some users to actually follow it.

If I have a list of possible sites about a certain subject
to link to and want to include a "last resort" link in
case the others are (temporarily or otherwise)
unavailable, I'd put it inside <small></small> and/or
include a warning about why it's not a good site.

I should refer to Elsner & Flake and URW++, who both produce a variety
of non-Roman typefaces.

So just mention them. Should be easy to find them.

But I dislike their brain-dead homepages based
completely on JavaScript.

I think that's reason enough not to link to them at all,
because I don't want to link to places which have a large
probability to not work for the user. It's bad for how the
user think of my site. Links are there to be useful.
--
Urban Fredriksson http://www.canit.se/%7Egriffon/
Things that try to look like things often look more like
things than things do.