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Edwin van der Vaart
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-21-2004 , 09:57 AM






Nico Schuyt wrote:
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Edwin van der Vaart wrote:
Nico Schuyt wrote:
Edwin van der Vaart wrote:

http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/test/cat.htm

The outcomes of the good ones are:
left

The http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...ttopiccolo.JPG You
must see something else than I do. I see numerous white jpg artefacts

I see the white spots on the artefact, but the background is much better then
http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/test/cat.jpg

It's the cat that's important :-) And the background is wrong compared with
the original on http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...inceramica.JPG
The green parts are cluttered due to wrong compression. That gives an
illusion of sharp leaves of the bush.
I see, it's a cat.
Still I find http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...ttopiccolo.JPG a
better thumbnail then yours.
I don't know how to say it. It's closer to the reality.
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Edwin van der Vaart
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors site
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction


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Edwin van der Vaart
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-21-2004 , 10:42 AM






Nico Schuyt wrote:
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Edwin van der Vaart wrote:


I see, it's a cat.

I are at one on that :-)


Still I find http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...ttopiccolo.JPG
a better thumbnail then yours.
I don't know how to say it. It's closer to the reality.

The reality is the original on
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...inceramica.JPG
Tha cat on that picture is sharp, the background not. The thumb should
represent that. He's not selling bushes but cats.
I ment the thumbnail.
Aaach. Never mind. This can go on and on.

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Geez, you are almost as stubborn as Luigi :-)
I'm not stubborn, but I'm firm.
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Edwin van der Vaart
http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors site
http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction


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Nico Schuyt
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-21-2004 , 10:45 AM



Edwin van der Vaart wrote:
Quote:
Nico Schuyt wrote:
Edwin van der Vaart wrote:

http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/test/cat.htm

The outcomes of the good ones are:
left
The http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...ttopiccolo.JPG You
must see something else than I do. I see numerous white jpg artefacts

I see the white spots on the artefact, but the background is much
better then
http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/test/cat.jpg
It's the cat that's important :-) And the background is wrong compared with
the original on http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...inceramica.JPG
The green parts are cluttered due to wrong compression. That gives an
illusion of sharp leaves of the bush.

--
Nico
http://www.nicoschuyt.nl





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Nico Schuyt
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-21-2004 , 11:30 AM



Edwin van der Vaart wrote:

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I see, it's a cat.
I are at one on that :-)

Quote:
Still I find http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...ttopiccolo.JPG
a better thumbnail then yours.
I don't know how to say it. It's closer to the reality.
The reality is the original on
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bil...inceramica.JPG
Tha cat on that picture is sharp, the background not. The thumb should
represent that. He's not selling bushes but cats.

Geez, you are almost as stubborn as Luigi :-)

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Nico
http://www.nicoschuyt.nl




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Travis Newbury
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-22-2004 , 03:32 PM



In article <MbHmd.8938$d5.77445 (AT) newsb (DOT) telia.net>,
jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com says...
Quote:
I wonder whether you think that the page
www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
looks better or worse than
www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/test3.html
or may-be does not make any big difference.
You know, something you could reward visitors with Javascript turned on
with is a simple timer to check the connection speed, then redirect to
the appropriate page. If they don't have or use javascript then they
loose nothing, but if they have it turned on then they don't get the
intro page, they get redirected to the appropriate speed page.

basically, set a timer, then have a comment exactly 1024 characters
long. Then check the timer. Using a little math you have an
approximation of the connection speed.

Will it always work? Nope. But if it doesn't then they are at the page
used to choose anyway so they lost nothing. Just a painless little toy
to have on your site that saves 80%+ visitors from seeing the choice
page.

YMMV
--
-=*Tn*=-


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Luigi Donatello Asero
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-22-2004 , 05:12 PM




"Travis Newbury" <tn (AT) swngers (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet
news:MPG.1c0c1701d63a0e219897ca (AT) nntp (DOT) charter.net...
Quote:
In article <MbHmd.8938$d5.77445 (AT) newsb (DOT) telia.net>,
jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com says...
I wonder whether you think that the page
www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
looks better or worse than
www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/test3.html
or may-be does not make any big difference.

You know, something you could reward visitors with Javascript turned on
with is a simple timer to check the connection speed, then redirect to
the appropriate page. If they don't have or use javascript then they
loose nothing, but if they have it turned on then they don't get the
intro page, they get redirected to the appropriate speed page.

basically, set a timer, then have a comment exactly 1024 characters
long. Then check the timer. Using a little math you have an
approximation of the connection speed.

Will it always work? Nope. But if it doesn't then they are at the page
used to choose anyway so they lost nothing. Just a painless little toy
to have on your site that saves 80%+ visitors from seeing the choice
page.
Well, the question is also whether the visitors lose something when they see
the choice page..

--
Luigi ( un italiano che vive in Svezia)
http://www.italymap.dk
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/





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Travis Newbury
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-22-2004 , 05:38 PM



In article <Qutod.9296$d5.82355 (AT) newsb (DOT) telia.net>,
jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com says...
Quote:
You know, something you could reward visitors with Javascript turned on
with is a simple timer to check the connection speed, then redirect to
the appropriate page. If they don't have or use javascript then they
loose nothing, but if they have it turned on then they don't get the
intro page, they get redirected to the appropriate speed page.
basically, set a timer, then have a comment exactly 1024 characters
long. Then check the timer. Using a little math you have an
approximation of the connection speed.
Will it always work? Nope. But if it doesn't then they are at the page
used to choose anyway so they lost nothing. Just a painless little toy
to have on your site that saves 80%+ visitors from seeing the choice
page.
Well, the question is also whether the visitors lose something when they see
the choice page..
Whole bunch of questions would have to be answered, but it is still a
simple thing to do. We use this method many times when selecting the
defaults for streaming media. (No one get their undies in a bunch, we
always give the user the option to override our default if they want
to.) If the customer has javascript on, and we guess right, then we
have a happier customer. If they don't have javascript turned on, or we
guess wrong, then they don't even know we tried to guess, and they make
their choice.
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-=*Tn*=-


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Jan Faerber
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-23-2004 , 05:24 AM



Travis Newbury wrote:

Quote:
to.) If the customer has javascript on, and we guess right, then we
have a happier customer. If they don't have javascript turned on, or we
guess wrong, then they don't even know we tried to guess, and they make
their choice.
It is not so much the javascript that is missing.
It is just a rough layout of content on Luigi's page,
not a graphical layout.
He tries to translate everything into five different languages, makes a form
here, a adsl-modem-page there, considers about certificates and then he
makes a RFC out of it.

There are three main sections on the page:

1.) Holiday lodgings

Holiday lodgings in Italy
Holiday lodgings in Sweden
Prices

2.) E-commerce

Swedish design
Italian design / ceramics
Articles made of glass

3.) Else

Translations / Languages / Interpreting
Intermediation of wares
Advertisements


It is not so bad the page, everybody is aware of your personality, you
studied in many countries and you are a business man and doing your webpage
on your own. The style is influenced by italian or spanish design like
hotmail groups with that language and on the other side he uses the
homepage just to have an additional information port for his customers.

If you want to expand your business and have the webpage as a real platform
for your company(-ies) it would be better to have three webpages: One for
each section, three domains and three individual styles.


Concerning your thumbnails on
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/adsl.html
I would have just a very short look at
http://www.uebungsfirma.at/fashiondesign/




--
Jan

http://html.janfaerber.com


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Luigi Donatello Asero
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-23-2004 , 10:43 AM




"Jan Faerber" <jancfaerber (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet
news:GdEod.37837$ha.17731 (AT) news (DOT) chello.at...
Quote:
Travis Newbury wrote:

to.) If the customer has javascript on, and we guess right, then we
have a happier customer. If they don't have javascript turned on, or we
guess wrong, then they don't even know we tried to guess, and they make
their choice.

It is not so much the javascript that is missing.
It is just a rough layout of content on Luigi's page,
not a graphical layout.
He tries to translate everything into five different languages,
The website is under construction in 10 languages now.

makes a
form
Quote:
here, a adsl-modem-page there, considers about certificates and then he
makes a RFC out of it.
What is a RFC? What do you mean by RFC?

Quote:
There are three main sections on the page:

1.) Holiday lodgings

Holiday lodgings in Italy
Holiday lodgings in Sweden
Prices

2.) E-commerce

Swedish design
Italian design / ceramics
Articles made of glass

3.) Else

Translations / Languages / Interpreting
Intermediation of wares
Advertisements


It is not so bad the page, everybody is aware of your personality, you
Which page?
So you think that it is not bad?


Quote:
studied in many countries and you are a business man and doing your
webpage
on your own. The style is influenced by italian or spanish design like
hotmail groups with that language and on the other side he uses the
homepage just to have an additional information port for his customers.

If you want to expand your business and have the webpage as a real
platform
for your company(-ies) it would be better to have three webpages: One for
each section, three domains and three individual styles.
So far , I have no company, I only have a one-man business
I already have 2 domains as I may have already explained but unfortunately
it already
sounds a little
unpractical to have more than one adress on my visiting cards, so I only
have one on them.
Besides, statistics show how visitors go from one sector of the website to
the other, so it rather seems to be an advantage to have many things on the
same website.
It might become a portal in the future. Who knows?
Also, if I understand it properly, each page is counted by google for its
links to all the other pages and from all the other pages which turns to be
an advantage for websites with many pages.


--
Luigi ( un italiano che vive in Svezia)
http://www.italymap.dk
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/oversattning.html






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Travis Newbury
 
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Default Re: Layout of this page - 11-23-2004 , 08:57 PM



In article <GdEod.37837$ha.17731 (AT) news (DOT) chello.at>,
jancfaerber (AT) hotmail (DOT) com says...
Quote:
Travis Newbury wrote:

to.) If the customer has javascript on, and we guess right, then we
have a happier customer. If they don't have javascript turned on, or we
guess wrong, then they don't even know we tried to guess, and they make
their choice.

It is not so much the javascript that is missing.
It is just a rough layout of content on Luigi's page,
not a graphical layout....
Oh, my bad. I thought it was obvious I was not offering a solution to
his problems, but rather interesting functionality that costs nothing to
those that can't use it, yet offers and easier site for those that can.
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