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al jones
 
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Default Included files - 05-21-2005 , 11:37 AM






I'm not sure which of the plethora of ciw... groups to try in so I'll try
here first and ask that someone direct me to the appropriate ng.

Learning to do some web design for a personal page. This site includes
about 150 letters which I've transcribed and each has it's own page.

What I'd like is the ability to include in the left col (a div) a file to
which I add each letter as I add the page to the web site so that one can
go from letter to letter with the same 'index' in the left hand column. As
it stands now, I see adding a letter and then going back through each of
the already entered pages and adding the new letter to the index ...

If this doesn't sound too confused (I am) would someone provide guidance

//al

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Default Re: Included files - 05-21-2005 , 12:01 PM






al jones <alfredmjones (AT) shotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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Learning to do some web design for a personal page. This site includes
about 150 letters which I've transcribed and each has it's own page.

What I'd like is the ability to include in the left col (a div) a file to
which I add each letter as I add the page to the web site so that one can
go from letter to letter with the same 'index' in the left hand column. As
it stands now, I see adding a letter and then going back through each of
the already entered pages and adding the new letter to the index ...
150 links in a side bar repeated on every page is far to many.

Categorize your content into ~<= 7 sections, create a page for every
section, place those ~<= 7 links on each page.

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Default Re: Included files - 05-21-2005 , 12:13 PM



On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:01:48 GMT, Spartanicus wrote:

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al jones <alfredmjones (AT) shotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Learning to do some web design for a personal page. This site includes
about 150 letters which I've transcribed and each has it's own page.

What I'd like is the ability to include in the left col (a div) a file to
which I add each letter as I add the page to the web site so that one can
go from letter to letter with the same 'index' in the left hand column. As
it stands now, I see adding a letter and then going back through each of
the already entered pages and adding the new letter to the index ...

150 links in a side bar repeated on every page is far to many.

Categorize your content into ~<= 7 sections, create a page for every
section, place those ~<= 7 links on each page.
I've looked at that. Believe me! These are transcriptions of letters from
/ to my gggg<-+>grandfather while he was in the civil war. The only
logical way to read them is sequentially (the index order [side bar] is by
date). I could arrange them in month segments - which would allow
sequential reading, however if I (or one of my relatives) were to look for
a particular letter from 'Ann' (for example) and didn't know the date they
have to look through each of the months till they found it. Ditto all
letter from a location as he moved around ... If I were to put his letters
into a section then the relationship to other peoples letters is lost ...
The best layout (that I can see) is to put the index in the left column
with a scroll option. However, I'm very open to ideas.


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Default Re: Included files - 05-21-2005 , 12:30 PM



al jones <alfredmjones (AT) shotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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I've looked at that. Believe me! These are transcriptions of letters from
/ to my gggg<-+>grandfather while he was in the civil war. The only
logical way to read them is sequentially (the index order [side bar] is by
date). I could arrange them in month segments - which would allow
sequential reading, however if I (or one of my relatives) were to look for
a particular letter from 'Ann' (for example) and didn't know the date they
have to look through each of the months till they found it. Ditto all
letter from a location as he moved around ... If I were to put his letters
into a section then the relationship to other peoples letters is lost ...
The best layout (that I can see) is to put the index in the left column
with a scroll option. However, I'm very open to ideas.
To me, it sounds like you need multiple indexes listing letters by
date, by recipient, by location, etc. Each page could have links to each
index.

A search function might be useful, too.

But regarding your original question about including a file in every page,
see: http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/design.html#include-file
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Web Design Group, darin (AT) htmlhelp (DOT) com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

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Default Re: Included files - 05-21-2005 , 12:40 PM



On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:30:44 +0000 (UTC), Darin McGrew wrote:

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al jones <alfredmjones (AT) shotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
I've looked at that. Believe me! These are transcriptions of letters from
/ to my gggg<-+>grandfather while he was in the civil war. The only
logical way to read them is sequentially (the index order [side bar] is by
date). I could arrange them in month segments - which would allow
sequential reading, however if I (or one of my relatives) were to look for
a particular letter from 'Ann' (for example) and didn't know the date they
have to look through each of the months till they found it. Ditto all
letter from a location as he moved around ... If I were to put his letters
into a section then the relationship to other peoples letters is lost ...
The best layout (that I can see) is to put the index in the left column
with a scroll option. However, I'm very open to ideas.

To me, it sounds like you need multiple indexes listing letters by
date, by recipient, by location, etc. Each page could have links to each
index.

A search function might be useful, too.
I've looked at a couple available on the web, but am witholding judgement
till I get something up that's (at least marginally to my family members)
worth looking at.
Quote:
But regarding your original question about including a file in every page,
see: http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/design.html#include-file
Thanks for pointing me back to this, I'd looked at it before and I guess I
need to look at it some more. Really hoping that someone can tell me an
(x)html way to do it but guess not -- I'm not doing frames and definitely
not doing iframes!

Thanks //al


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Spartanicus
 
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Default Re: Included files - 05-21-2005 , 05:16 PM



al jones <alfredmjones (AT) shotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Categorize your content into ~<= 7 sections, create a page for every
section, place those ~<= 7 links on each page.

I've looked at that. Believe me! These are transcriptions of letters from
/ to my gggg<-+>grandfather while he was in the civil war. The only
logical way to read them is sequentially (the index order [side bar] is by
date). I could arrange them in month segments - which would allow
sequential reading, however if I (or one of my relatives) were to look for
a particular letter from 'Ann' (for example) and didn't know the date they
have to look through each of the months till they found it. Ditto all
letter from a location as he moved around ... If I were to put his letters
into a section then the relationship to other peoples letters is lost ...
The best layout (that I can see) is to put the index in the left column
with a scroll option.
That would still make it a bother to find that particular letter from
"Anne", or letters from a particular location.

Who the letter is from, the date and from what location it was posted is
meta data that should be stored in a database, this would allow people
to search for "All letters from Anne", or "All letters from Gettysburg"
etc.

For your individual letter pages it would then suffice to have a
"Previous" and "Next" link that allows sequential reading.

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