Please check this site

I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I also
made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to certain
browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server, as well as
online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey, and Opera
current versions. All seems to be working fine.

However, I'd like to see if users elsewhere in the world and, perhaps,
using other untested environments are having any problems. The URL is
in my signature below.

Thanks in advance.


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Ed Mullen wrote:

I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.

What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.


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Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.

What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.

Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).

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Blinky the Shark wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.

Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).

Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see if
you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down the
links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main
buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the link
show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with Konqueror but
I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the destination of a link you
hover over.

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http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
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Ed Mullen wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.

Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).

Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see if
you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down the
links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main

Right. I get the subdrops but they don't lead to pages.

buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the link
show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with Konqueror but
I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the destination of a link you
hover over.

<clicketyclick>

Well, fsck me runnin'. I had js disabled. I'm very sorry to raise a
note of concern over something like that.


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Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.
Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).
Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see if
you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down the
links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main

Right. I get the subdrops but they don't lead to pages.

buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the link
show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with Konqueror but
I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the destination of a link you
hover over.

clicketyclick

Well, fsck me runnin'. I had js disabled. I'm very sorry to raise a
note of concern over something like that.

No problem. But, uh, that's /really/ interesting! The whole point of
the mods I made to the site were to get rid of the javascript which was
used for the menus and the browser detection! The menus are now created
server-side using PHP includes. And the browser detect is an IE
conditional comment that simply serves any IE version less than 7 with a
very slightly altered style sheet (it simply changes the body top margin
and the fixed position of the menu header div to relative).

I just turned off javascript in SeaMonkey, IE7 and Firfeox and the menus
(and all else) work perfectly.

Yikes! I just tried it on a test box with IE6 and javascript turned off
and I don't even get the drop downs. Crap!

Internet Options - Security Tab - Custom Level - Scripting - Active
Scripting off. Go to edmullen.net. No drop downs.

Turn Active Scripting on. Go to edmullen.net. Everything works. Using
the DebugBar addon for IE6 and look at the Scripts section and it shows
no scripts loaded. Same thing if Active Scripting turned off.

I'm stumped. At least until I get some more time to puzzle this one out.

Thanks, Blinky. <sigh>

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http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
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tomorrow isn't looking good either.

Ed Mullen wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox,
SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.
Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).
Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see
if you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down
the links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main

Right. I get the subdrops but they don't lead to pages.

buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the
link show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with
Konqueror but I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the
destination of a link you hover over.

clicketyclick

Well, fsck me runnin'. I had js disabled. I'm very sorry to raise a
note of concern over something like that.



No problem. But, uh, that's /really/ interesting! The whole point of
the mods I made to the site were to get rid of the javascript which was
used for the menus and the browser detection! The menus are now created
server-side using PHP includes. And the browser detect is an IE
conditional comment that simply serves any IE version less than 7 with a
very slightly altered style sheet (it simply changes the body top margin
and the fixed position of the menu header div to relative).

I just turned off javascript in SeaMonkey, IE7 and Firfeox and the menus
(and all else) work perfectly.

Yikes! I just tried it on a test box with IE6 and javascript turned off
and I don't even get the drop downs. Crap!

Internet Options - Security Tab - Custom Level - Scripting - Active
Scripting off. Go to edmullen.net. No drop downs.

Turn Active Scripting on. Go to edmullen.net. Everything works. Using
the DebugBar addon for IE6 and look at the Scripts section and it shows
no scripts loaded. Same thing if Active Scripting turned off.

I'm stumped. At least until I get some more time to puzzle this one out.

Thanks, Blinky. <sigh

Ok, mystery solved. In the menu system I use there is a "fix" for IE6's
lack of support for :hover on anything but the <a> anchor. It utilizes
the csshover.htc script (http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html)
and that's the issue.

So, back to the drawing board for a menu system that doesn't require that.

Thanks again for pointing this out, Blinky.

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http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
good toasted.

Ed Mullen wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.
Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).
Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see if
you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down the
links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main

Right. I get the subdrops but they don't lead to pages.

buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the link
show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with Konqueror but
I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the destination of a link you
hover over.

clicketyclick

Well, fsck me runnin'. I had js disabled. I'm very sorry to raise a
note of concern over something like that.

No problem. But, uh, that's /really/ interesting! The whole point of
the mods I made to the site were to get rid of the javascript which was
used for the menus and the browser detection! The menus are now created

Urk!

server-side using PHP includes. And the browser detect is an IE
conditional comment that simply serves any IE version less than 7 with a
very slightly altered style sheet (it simply changes the body top margin
and the fixed position of the menu header div to relative).

I just turned off javascript in SeaMonkey, IE7 and Firfeox and the menus
(and all else) work perfectly.

Yikes! I just tried it on a test box with IE6 and javascript turned off
and I don't even get the drop downs. Crap!

Internet Options - Security Tab - Custom Level - Scripting - Active
Scripting off. Go to edmullen.net. No drop downs.

Turn Active Scripting on. Go to edmullen.net. Everything works. Using
the DebugBar addon for IE6 and look at the Scripts section and it shows
no scripts loaded. Same thing if Active Scripting turned off.

I'm stumped. At least until I get some more time to puzzle this one out.

Thanks, Blinky. <sigh

Well, now I'm torn between being glad and sad about opening this can of
worms for you. You can't fix something you don't know about...but you
were happy as a clam, before.

But do you know what's worse? Much worse? Today, with Konqueror and js
DISabled your menus work fine (i.e., they take me somewhere). I
certainly cannot explain this.

Y'know, I totally forgot, until I was exploring this, that the list of
moz newsgroups to which I've referred when I had the occasional brain
fart and to which I've referred others to, was yours.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.
Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).
Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see if
you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down the
links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main
Right. I get the subdrops but they don't lead to pages.

buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the link
show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with Konqueror but
I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the destination of a link you
hover over.
clicketyclick

Well, fsck me runnin'. I had js disabled. I'm very sorry to raise a
note of concern over something like that.
No problem. But, uh, that's /really/ interesting! The whole point of
the mods I made to the site were to get rid of the javascript which was
used for the menus and the browser detection! The menus are now created

Urk!

server-side using PHP includes. And the browser detect is an IE
conditional comment that simply serves any IE version less than 7 with a
very slightly altered style sheet (it simply changes the body top margin
and the fixed position of the menu header div to relative).

I just turned off javascript in SeaMonkey, IE7 and Firfeox and the menus
(and all else) work perfectly.

Yikes! I just tried it on a test box with IE6 and javascript turned off
and I don't even get the drop downs. Crap!

Internet Options - Security Tab - Custom Level - Scripting - Active
Scripting off. Go to edmullen.net. No drop downs.

Turn Active Scripting on. Go to edmullen.net. Everything works. Using
the DebugBar addon for IE6 and look at the Scripts section and it shows
no scripts loaded. Same thing if Active Scripting turned off.

I'm stumped. At least until I get some more time to puzzle this one out.

Thanks, Blinky. <sigh

Well, now I'm torn between being glad and sad about opening this can of
worms for you. You can't fix something you don't know about...but you
were happy as a clam, before.

But do you know what's worse? Much worse? Today, with Konqueror and js
DISabled your menus work fine (i.e., they take me somewhere). I
certainly cannot explain this.

Y'know, I totally forgot, until I was exploring this, that the list of
moz newsgroups to which I've referred when I had the occasional brain
fart and to which I've referred others to, was yours.

See my response above this message. I'm kinda screwed regarding IE6-
(thanks for helping me discover that!) but I am totally perplexed why
Konqueror failed *unless* you happened to be UA spoofing IE6 at the time?

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

Ed Mullen wrote:

Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
I recently changed my site to use server-side includes using PHP. I
also made some changes to the style sheets and which are served to
certain browsers. I have tested it extensively using a local server,
as well as online on the Internet, using IE7, IE6, Firefox, SeaMonkey,
and Opera current versions. All seems to be working fine.
What little I saw with Safari/XP (since that wasn't mentioned above)
looked nice. But I didn't see much of it before I bailed because it
appears to be sized for broadband users only.
Ignore! I went to edmullen.com. Sorry 'bout that.

The site you *asked* about <g> works fine with Safari/XP but while the
dropdowns drop down clicking on them doesn't take me to target pages
with Konqueror/Linux (nothing happens).
Hmm. That is odd. Can you do a "view source" or "page info" and see if
you notice anything obvious? I would think if the menus drop down the
links should work. Bearing in mind that the main menu buttons
themselves do not link to anything, only the links below the main
Right. I get the subdrops but they don't lead to pages.

buttons. Also, if you hover over/highlight a menu choice, does the link
show up in your status bar? I'm not at all familiar with Konqueror but
I'm hoping it has a feature that displays the destination of a link you
hover over.
clicketyclick

Well, fsck me runnin'. I had js disabled. I'm very sorry to raise a
note of concern over something like that.
No problem. But, uh, that's /really/ interesting! The whole point of
the mods I made to the site were to get rid of the javascript which was
used for the menus and the browser detection! The menus are now created

Urk!

server-side using PHP includes. And the browser detect is an IE
conditional comment that simply serves any IE version less than 7 with a
very slightly altered style sheet (it simply changes the body top margin
and the fixed position of the menu header div to relative).

I just turned off javascript in SeaMonkey, IE7 and Firfeox and the menus
(and all else) work perfectly.

Yikes! I just tried it on a test box with IE6 and javascript turned off
and I don't even get the drop downs. Crap!

Internet Options - Security Tab - Custom Level - Scripting - Active
Scripting off. Go to edmullen.net. No drop downs.

Turn Active Scripting on. Go to edmullen.net. Everything works. Using
the DebugBar addon for IE6 and look at the Scripts section and it shows
no scripts loaded. Same thing if Active Scripting turned off.

I'm stumped. At least until I get some more time to puzzle this one out.

Thanks, Blinky. <sigh

Well, now I'm torn between being glad and sad about opening this can of
worms for you. You can't fix something you don't know about...but you
were happy as a clam, before.

But do you know what's worse? Much worse? Today, with Konqueror and js
DISabled your menus work fine (i.e., they take me somewhere). I
certainly cannot explain this.

Y'know, I totally forgot, until I was exploring this, that the list of
moz newsgroups to which I've referred when I had the occasional brain
fart and to which I've referred others to, was yours.


See my response above this message. I'm kinda screwed regarding IE6-
(thanks for helping me discover that!) but I am totally perplexed why
Konqueror failed *unless* you happened to be UA spoofing IE6 at the time?

It wasn't. I haven't changed UA reporting.

Copy/Paste from Konqeror config:

Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.4; Linux) KHTML/3.4.2 (like Gecko)


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