Need some feedback on a site design

#1

I've got complaints that my site/app is "Ugly Betty", so, I gave it a
shot to give it a face lift myself though not a designer. Please take
a look at it, http://www.mytata.net/
and let me know what you think of it. My idea is to keep it simple.

Thks.

#2

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tatata9999 (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

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I've got complaints that my site/app is "Ugly Betty", so, I gave it a
shot to give it a face lift myself though not a designer. Please take
a look at it, http://www.mytata.net/
and let me know what you think of it. My idea is to keep it simple.

Replace the tables with elements that mean something, validate it, then
start thinking about what it looks like ;]

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Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?...rch=0xBACD7433
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#3

On Oct 28, 11:54 am, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVET... (AT) brendanREMOVETHISgillatt (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
I've got complaints that my site/app is "Ugly Betty", so, I gave it a
shot to give it a face lift myself though not a designer. Please take
a look at it,http://www.mytata.net/
and let me know what you think of it. My idea is to keep it simple.

Replace the tables with elements that mean something, validate it, then
start thinking about what it looks like ;]

- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} ukhttp://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
PGP Key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?...rch=0xBACD7433
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Yes, the Index.cfm home page is cleaner while the main pages are not,
too many tables... it's on the to do list, thanks for the push...
btw, what background color do you see for all the pages?

#4

On Oct 28, 8:31 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m... (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:

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tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
One thing at a time, tell me a bit on "floats" per your "how to use
floats," or a pointer. Thks.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...+to+use+floats

The first hit is pretty cool.http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials...l.tutorial.htm

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Hidden treasure

ok, if CSS can help with defeating javascript's security hole, I'll go
for it. btw, is there anything in CSS that can minik javascript's
ability to toggle an element from invisible to visible or the float
can do it, just that I haven't read enough of it?

Thks.

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On Oct 28, 8:31 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
a.nony.m... (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
One thing at a time, tell me a bit on "floats" per your "how to use
floats," or a pointer. Thks.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...+to+use+floats

The first hit is pretty cool.http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials...l.tutorial.htm

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Hidden treasure

ok, if CSS can help with defeating javascript's security hole, I'll go
for it. btw, is there anything in CSS that can minik javascript's
ability to toggle an element from invisible to visible or the float
can do it, just that I haven't read enough of it?

display: hidden;

- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?...rch=0xBACD7433
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#6

On Oct 30, 2:38 pm, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVET... (AT) brendanREMOVETHISgillatt (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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On Oct 28, 8:31 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
a.nony.m... (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
One thing at a time, tell me a bit on "floats" per your "how to use
floats," or a pointer. Thks.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...+to+use+floats

The first hit is pretty cool.http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials...l.tutorial.htm

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Hidden treasure

ok, if CSS can help with defeating javascript's security hole, I'll go
for it. btw, is there anything in CSS that can minik javascript's
ability to toggle an element from invisible to visible or the float
can do it, just that I haven't read enough of it?

display: hidden;

- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} ukhttp://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
PGP Key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?...rch=0xBACD7433
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Probably I did not get my question across clearly. Let me use an
example for it, let's again use my site/app as one,
http://web.mytata.net:8000/myTA/index2_so.cfm
The Get Started 'link' is currently using a javascript toggle (event
trigger), the default HTML element (a table) is set to
"display:hidden", upon click, the value of the display attribute
becomes 'visible'. So, the question was/is, what do I do with CSS or
the like to replace the current javascript?

Tks.

#7

On Oct 30, 12:08 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m... (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:

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tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
One thing at a time, tell me a bit on "floats" per your "how to use
floats," or a pointer. Thks.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...+to+use+floats

The first hit is pretty cool.
http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials...l.tutorial.htm

Hidden treasure

Thought you would think so.

Are you guys related?

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On Oct 30, 2:38 pm, Brendan Gillatt
brendanREMOVET... (AT) brendanREMOVETHISgillatt (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:31 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
a.nony.m... (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
One thing at a time, tell me a bit on "floats" per your "how to use
floats," or a pointer. Thks.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...+to+use+floats
The first hit is pretty cool.http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials...l.tutorial.htm
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Hidden treasure

ok, if CSS can help with defeating javascript's security hole, I'll go
for it. btw, is there anything in CSS that can minik javascript's
ability to toggle an element from invisible to visible or the float
can do it, just that I haven't read enough of it?
display: hidden;

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Probably I did not get my question across clearly. Let me use an
example for it, let's again use my site/app as one,
http://web.mytata.net:8000/myTA/index2_so.cfm
The Get Started 'link' is currently using a javascript toggle (event
trigger), the default HTML element (a table) is set to
"display:hidden", upon click, the value of the display attribute
becomes 'visible'. So, the question was/is, what do I do with CSS or
the like to replace the current javascript?

Tks.

Why do you need to hide it?

When I first visited I was under the impression that the link led
somewhere. It's just plain confusing for visitors.

- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?...rch=0xBACD7433
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#9

On Oct 30, 4:49 pm, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVET... (AT) brendanREMOVETHISgillatt (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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On Oct 30, 2:38 pm, Brendan Gillatt
brendanREMOVET... (AT) brendanREMOVETHISgillatt (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:31 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
a.nony.m... (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
tatata9... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
One thing at a time, tell me a bit on "floats" per your "how to use
floats," or a pointer. Thks.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...+to+use+floats
The first hit is pretty cool.http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials...l.tutorial.htm
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Hidden treasure

ok, if CSS can help with defeating javascript's security hole, I'll go
for it. btw, is there anything in CSS that can minik javascript's
ability to toggle an element from invisible to visible or the float
can do it, just that I haven't read enough of it?
display: hidden;

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Probably I did not get my question across clearly. Let me use an
example for it, let's again use my site/app as one,
http://web.mytata.net:8000/myTA/index2_so.cfm
The Get Started 'link' is currently using a javascript toggle (event
trigger), the default HTML element (a table) is set to
"display:hidden", upon click, the value of the display attribute
becomes 'visible'. So, the question was/is, what do I do with CSS or
the like to replace the current javascript?
Tks.

Why do you need to hide it?

When I first visited I was under the impression that the link led
somewhere. It's just plain confusing for visitors.

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Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} ukhttp://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
PGP Key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?...rch=0xBACD7433
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WHY do you like the word, 'hide' so much? it's irritating.
As you can tell, initially making it invisible, hence, less
information, hence, less likely to confuse a new user, hence
improve usability... WHY do people think up something that DOES NOT
EXIST! I'm getting pissed!!

#10

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WHY do you like the word, 'hide' so much? it's irritating.
As you can tell, initially making it invisible, hence, less
information, hence, less likely to confuse a new user, hence
improve usability... WHY do people think up something that DOES NOT
EXIST! I'm getting pissed!!

Woah there! I'm simply advising you not to hide things from you're
visitors! Less information doesn't automagically make things less
confusing. Especially when you do something unexpected such as turn links
into things that suddenly change the layout of a page.

There's no reason to get annoyed - if you don't want my advise just
ignore what I say.

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Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?...rch=0xBACD7433
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