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Default Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 03:00 AM






HI all,

I have 3 pages scanned in PDF and I hope I can combine them into one big
jpeg image and post it online on forums.

The goals are:

1. Three pages cancated into one page(the height of the image is 3x larger
than a normal image);
2. Do some annotation on this big image;
3. Convert everything into JPEG image file and then post it online on
forums...

The sniptool only allow no more than screen size capture.

Any convinient softwares that can fulfill the above requirement?

If I use a separate tool to combine the 3 pages into one big JPEG image, the
sniptool does not allow opening a file to make annotations, that's too
bad...

---------------------

Currently I have the following software:

Acrobat Pro 7.0
Tablet PC XP Pro
Sniptool included when I buy the Tablet PC

I can also install the PHOTOSHOP, but I really hope there can be simple
solutions and in very few mouseclicks instead of using the bulky
photoshop... I don't want to load PHOTOSHOP to my poor-configured small
laptop...




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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 06:27 AM






"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
HI all,

I have 3 pages scanned in PDF and I hope I can combine them into one big
jpeg image and post it online on forums.

The goals are:

1. Three pages cancated into one page(the height of the image is 3x
larger
than a normal image);
2. Do some annotation on this big image;
3. Convert everything into JPEG image file and then post it online on
forums...

The sniptool only allow no more than screen size capture.

Any convinient softwares that can fulfill the above requirement?

If I use a separate tool to combine the 3 pages into one big JPEG image,
the
sniptool does not allow opening a file to make annotations, that's too
bad...

---------------------

Currently I have the following software:

Acrobat Pro 7.0
Tablet PC XP Pro
Sniptool included when I buy the Tablet PC

I can also install the PHOTOSHOP, but I really hope there can be simple
solutions and in very few mouseclicks instead of using the bulky
photoshop... I don't want to load PHOTOSHOP to my poor-configured small
laptop...



Post the PDF ... making a mess out of a JPEG will be counterproductive.








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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 11:41 AM



In article <1AaYe.12326$%i1.8174@trnddc09>, rsdwla.NOSPAM (AT) gte (DOT) net says...
Quote:
"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dgr0em$igu$1 (AT) news (DOT) Stanford.EDU...
HI all,

I have 3 pages scanned in PDF and I hope I can combine them into one big
jpeg image and post it online on forums.

The goals are:

1. Three pages cancated into one page(the height of the image is 3x
larger
than a normal image);
2. Do some annotation on this big image;
3. Convert everything into JPEG image file and then post it online on
forums...

The sniptool only allow no more than screen size capture.

Any convinient softwares that can fulfill the above requirement?

If I use a separate tool to combine the 3 pages into one big JPEG image,
the
sniptool does not allow opening a file to make annotations, that's too
bad...

---------------------

Currently I have the following software:

Acrobat Pro 7.0
Tablet PC XP Pro
Sniptool included when I buy the Tablet PC

I can also install the PHOTOSHOP, but I really hope there can be simple
solutions and in very few mouseclicks instead of using the bulky
photoshop... I don't want to load PHOTOSHOP to my poor-configured small
laptop...




Post the PDF ... making a mess out of a JPEG will be counterproductive.
Definitely, keep the PDF. You might want to include the link to Adobe's
Acrobat Reader site, for those very few, who do not have it already. If Saved
for the Web, I'll bet that the PDF will be much smaller than a JPG, and far,
far more legible, as well. Acrobat Pro 7 will allow you to make all the
annotations that you want, and keeping the form as a PDF will allow you to
link directly from it to any other documents - maybe your annotations?

Hunt



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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 12:56 PM




"RSD99" <rsdwla.NOSPAM (AT) gte (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dgr0em$igu$1 (AT) news (DOT) Stanford.EDU...
HI all,

I have 3 pages scanned in PDF and I hope I can combine them into one big
jpeg image and post it online on forums.

The goals are:

1. Three pages cancated into one page(the height of the image is 3x
larger
than a normal image);
2. Do some annotation on this big image;
3. Convert everything into JPEG image file and then post it online on
forums...

The sniptool only allow no more than screen size capture.

Any convinient softwares that can fulfill the above requirement?

If I use a separate tool to combine the 3 pages into one big JPEG image,
the
sniptool does not allow opening a file to make annotations, that's too
bad...

---------------------

Currently I have the following software:

Acrobat Pro 7.0
Tablet PC XP Pro
Sniptool included when I buy the Tablet PC

I can also install the PHOTOSHOP, but I really hope there can be simple
solutions and in very few mouseclicks instead of using the bulky
photoshop... I don't want to load PHOTOSHOP to my poor-configured small
laptop...




Post the PDF ... making a mess out of a JPEG will be counterproductive.




If you post a pdf onto a public forum. You want people to view. The jpeg
version will be a natural way of presenting inside the browser; but a pdf,
it will propmt a window asking if they want to download or open, etc. esp.
if the browsers are not on Windows, but are on Linux, Unix, etc. They are
going to be reluctant of viewing pdf...

My purpose was trying to post pdf(full of math equations) and discuss with
those mathematicians over the Intnert forums...




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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 02:13 PM



"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"RSD99" <rsdwla.NOSPAM (AT) gte (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:1AaYe.12326$%i1.8174 (AT) trnddc09 (DOT) ..
"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dgr0em$igu$1 (AT) news (DOT) Stanford.EDU...
HI all,

I have 3 pages scanned in PDF and I hope I can combine them into one
big
jpeg image and post it online on forums.

The goals are:

1. Three pages cancated into one page(the height of the image is 3x
larger
than a normal image);
2. Do some annotation on this big image;
3. Convert everything into JPEG image file and then post it online on
forums...

The sniptool only allow no more than screen size capture.

Any convinient softwares that can fulfill the above requirement?

If I use a separate tool to combine the 3 pages into one big JPEG
image,
the
sniptool does not allow opening a file to make annotations, that's too
bad...

---------------------

Currently I have the following software:

Acrobat Pro 7.0
Tablet PC XP Pro
Sniptool included when I buy the Tablet PC

I can also install the PHOTOSHOP, but I really hope there can be
simple
solutions and in very few mouseclicks instead of using the bulky
photoshop... I don't want to load PHOTOSHOP to my poor-configured
small
laptop...




Post the PDF ... making a mess out of a JPEG will be counterproductive.





If you post a pdf onto a public forum. You want people to view. The jpeg
version will be a natural way of presenting inside the browser; but a
pdf,
it will propmt a window asking if they want to download or open, etc.
esp.
if the browsers are not on Windows, but are on Linux, Unix, etc. They
are
going to be reluctant of viewing pdf...

My purpose was trying to post pdf(full of math equations) and discuss
with
those mathematicians over the Intnert forums...


FWIW:
Probably well over 90% of the people that view "things" on the Internet
already know about Acrobat (PDF) files, and have the Adobe Acrobat Reader
software (or the full Acrobat program) installed on their computer(s) ...
and the other ten percent *should* have it. After all, The Acrobat Reader
Software is well tested (well over a decade 'in the field'), essentially a
'standard,' and completely and totally free. At this time *very* few users
"are going to be reluctant of viewing pdf..."

For your application, making any kind of JPEG image is a bad idea. JPEG is
a *destructive* compression algorithm that is designed for continuous tone,
or **photographic** images, and it can do some very *not* *nice* things to
images that have sharp edges, such as text images (or, in your case,
mathematical equations).

Even more of a reason to use the PDF file(s) directly.










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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 03:36 PM



"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote


Quote:
My purpose was trying to post pdf(full of math equations) and discuss with
those mathematicians over the Intnert forums...
You've received a bunch of crap advice here. I think the protesters don't
realize that the original document isn't vector, but raster and besides,
compressed ('optimized') PDFs are JPEGs.

In any event, open Photoshop. File - New and make it as large as necessary
to have all three pages concatenated (vertically, horizontally, whatever).
Then in Photoshop open the PDF(s). Drag the image of choice into your New
Document. Do the same for the rest. They will come in as separate layers.
Drag them into the proper arrangement. Then save as .GIF (sharper that way).

If the PDF images are messy, then use Levels or Curves to drop out the
background.

BTW - Unix, Linux, Mac, etc all have an Acrobat reader.




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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 04:34 PM



"Lorem Ipsum" <Lorem (AT) ipsum (DOT) xxx> wrote

Quote:
"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dgs3co$k83$1 (AT) news (DOT) Stanford.EDU...

My purpose was trying to post pdf(full of math equations) and discuss
with
those mathematicians over the Intnert forums...

You've received a bunch of crap advice here. I think the protesters don't
realize that the original document isn't vector, but raster and besides,
compressed ('optimized') PDFs are JPEGs.

In any event, open Photoshop. File - New and make it as large as
necessary
to have all three pages concatenated (vertically, horizontally,
whatever).
Then in Photoshop open the PDF(s). Drag the image of choice into your
New
Document. Do the same for the rest. They will come in as separate layers.
Drag them into the proper arrangement. Then save as .GIF (sharper that
way).

If the PDF images are messy, then use Levels or Curves to drop out the
background.

BTW - Unix, Linux, Mac, etc all have an Acrobat reader.


"Lorem Ipsum" posted:
"... I think the protesters don't
realize that the original document isn't vector, but raster and besides,
compressed ('optimized') PDFs are JPEGs. ..."

Wrong. Totally wrong.

You definitely need to investigate just exactly what a PDF file actually
is. FWIW: The short answer is that the PDF file format is a (relatively
minor) variation of the PostScript Page Description language, and its
contents can be either vector or raster based.

The graphics format used inside any given PDF file will depend upon the
original used to produce the PDF file. For text or mathematical equations,
it will definitely *will* be either a typeface (as in a font, or TTF, or
OpenType) which is a vector item, or a vector drawing format such as an
Adobe Illustrator drawing or an Adobe InDesign page layout file. Most
probably, a mathematics expression would be created by an equation editing
program, such as MathType or Equation Magic, and most likely would be in a
vector Encapsulated PostScript File (EPS or EPSF) format.

PhotoShop is *not* the program of choice for working with those kinds of
illustrations. JPEG is also *not* the file format to use for document
interchange.














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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 07:02 PM



"RSD99" <rsdwla.NOSPAM (AT) gte (DOT) net> wrote ...
Quote:
"Lorem Ipsum" <Lorem (AT) ipsum (DOT) xxx> wrote ...
"kiki" <lunaliu3 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote ...

My purpose was trying to post pdf(full of math equations) and discuss
with
those mathematicians over the Intnert forums...
snip
You've received a bunch of crap advice here. I think the protesters don't
realize that the original document isn't vector, but raster and besides,
compressed ('optimized') PDFs are JPEGs.
snip
Wrong. Totally wrong.
snip
The graphics format used inside any given PDF file will depend upon the
original used to produce the PDF file. For text or mathematical equations,
it will definitely *will* be either a typeface <snip> Most
probably, a mathematics expression would be created by an equation editing
program, such as MathType or Equation Magic, and most likely would be in a
vector Encapsulated PostScript File (EPS or EPSF) format.
OP specifically stated that these were SCANNED pages.
Unless his scan software does an OCR equivalent for mathematical layout,
wouldn't that be raster?

I've downloaded too many "PDF" documents that were just megabyte raster
scans of pages that had a few hundred characters on plain white,
encapsulated as pdf files.




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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 08:06 PM



"RSD99" <rsdwla.NOSPAM (AT) gte (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"Lorem Ipsum" posted:
"... I think the protesters don't
realize that the original document isn't vector, but raster and besides,
compressed ('optimized') PDFs are JPEGs. ..."

Wrong. Totally wrong.

You definitely need to investigate just exactly what a PDF file actually
is. FWIW: The short answer is that the PDF file format is a (relatively
minor) variation of the PostScript Page Description language, and its
contents can be either vector or raster based.
You have not determined what his source file is. I presumed it was a raster
image, thus my comment.




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Default Re: Help! Combining several images into one big jpeg image? - 09-21-2005 , 08:08 PM



"ggull" <ggull.SPAM.BUST (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
OP specifically stated that these were SCANNED pages.
Unless his scan software does an OCR equivalent for mathematical layout,
wouldn't that be raster?
Yes it would. Other than his "you had better learn" comment, RSD99's
information was good for others like himself who may have misunderstood the
OP's situation.

RSD - No problem. Good post.




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