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XxLicherxX
 
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Default Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 01-11-2005 , 10:17 AM






Hello everyone. I hope this is the right newsgroup to post this
question to. My apologies if it's not.

I am wondering if having a Flash movie on your index.* page has any
impact on search engine results. Please let me know.


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Mark Tranchant
 
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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 01-11-2005 , 10:49 AM






XxLicherxX wrote:

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I am wondering if having a Flash movie on your index.* page has any
impact on search engine results. Please let me know.
I have no data on this, but it seems reasonable that the presence of a
Flash movie will not affect your ratings versus the same page without
the movie but with a similar-sized comment. Obviously, any content
within the movie will not take part in the ratings.

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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 01-11-2005 , 06:41 PM



Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "XxLicherxX" <goldhors64 (AT) aol (DOT) com>
writing in news:1105456661.221677.48310 (AT) f14g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com:

Quote:
Hello everyone. I hope this is the right newsgroup to post this
question to. My apologies if it's not.

I am wondering if having a Flash movie on your index.* page has any
impact on search engine results. Please let me know.

It all depends on how you do it. If the navigation is in the Flash, and
there is no alternative navigation, then the bot cannot crawl the site.

Remember that search engine bots are machines, so they cannot see, listen,
type, point or click here, and they are not impressed. What they _can_ do
is read logically marked up text. Use a text browser to see what your site
will look like to a search engine and design accordingly.

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Adrienne Boswell
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share


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Scotty
 
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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 01-12-2005 , 03:15 AM



It's imperitive that you include the code needed in order for the
engines to spider the site. Even so, I would not recommend have a flash
intro if you are going for top rankings in the search engines. Another
tip for you.... make an additional entry page, much like the one you
have the flash intro jump too. Call it index2.html and be sure to enter
that URL into the search engine rather than root. Ok, enough secrets
issued for one night.

Also, I am looking for business and can make websites get into the top
ranking areas of the main search engines. If you are interested in
having me quote some work, whether it be a new design, re-design, or
strategic search engine work, I am very available right now. Just email
me directly at scott (AT) intrawork (DOT) com and we can discuss.

Sincerely,

Scott Bruno
Founder - Intrawork
http://www.intrawork.com
scott (AT) intrawork (DOT) com


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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 02-09-2005 , 09:31 AM



On 11 Jan 2005 07:17:41 -0800, "XxLicherxX" <goldhors64 (AT) aol (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
Hello everyone. I hope this is the right newsgroup to post this
question to. My apologies if it's not.

I am wondering if having a Flash movie on your index.* page has any
impact on search engine results. Please let me know.
Yes it does. It makes it a great deal harder for the engines to find
and index your site as Flash intro page usually looks like this

ENTER

to them. So they tend not to bother. It's like putting all the info
behind a wall where they can't see it. Flash splash page = bad idea.

BB
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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 02-09-2005 , 09:31 AM



On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:41:33 GMT, Adrienne <arbpen2003 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>
wrote:

Quote:
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "XxLicherxX" <goldhors64 (AT) aol (DOT) com
writing in news:1105456661.221677.48310 (AT) f14g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com:

Hello everyone. I hope this is the right newsgroup to post this
question to. My apologies if it's not.

I am wondering if having a Flash movie on your index.* page has any
impact on search engine results. Please let me know.


It all depends on how you do it. If the navigation is in the Flash, and
there is no alternative navigation, then the bot cannot crawl the site.

Remember that search engine bots are machines, so they cannot see, listen,
type, point or click here, and they are not impressed. What they _can_ do
is read logically marked up text. Use a text browser to see what your site
will look like to a search engine and design accordingly.
Adrienne probably means the Lynx viewer at
http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

Hi Adrienne.

BB
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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 02-09-2005 , 09:31 AM



On 12 Jan 2005 00:15:19 -0800, "Scotty" <scottybruno (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
It's imperitive that you include the code needed in order for the
engines to spider the site. Even so, I would not recommend have a flash
intro if you are going for top rankings in the search engines. Another
tip for you.... make an additional entry page, much like the one you
have the flash intro jump too. Call it index2.html and be sure to enter
that URL into the search engine rather than root. Ok, enough secrets
issued for one night.
We won't mention submitting site maps to directories then, or that you
do not, in fact, submit anything to an engine these days.

BB


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Adrienne
 
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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 02-09-2005 , 01:45 PM



Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk>
writing in news:6o6k01d0a84sl3nv6njr9t12v0v8755kel (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

Quote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:41:33 GMT, Adrienne <arbpen2003 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net
wrote:

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "XxLicherxX"
goldhors64 (AT) aol (DOT) com> writing in
news:1105456661.221677.48310 (AT) f14g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com:

Hello everyone. I hope this is the right newsgroup to post this
question to. My apologies if it's not.

I am wondering if having a Flash movie on your index.* page has any
impact on search engine results. Please let me know.


It all depends on how you do it. If the navigation is in the Flash,
and there is no alternative navigation, then the bot cannot crawl the
site.

Remember that search engine bots are machines, so they cannot see,
listen, type, point or click here, and they are not impressed. What
they _can_ do is read logically marked up text. Use a text browser to
see what your site will look like to a search engine and design
accordingly.

Adrienne probably means the Lynx viewer at
http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

Hi Adrienne.

BB
Hi BB.

Delorie is a good choice, and Opera has text version, which is what I
usually use.



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Adrienne Boswell
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: Flash and Search Engine Ranking - 02-09-2005 , 04:18 PM



On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:45:25 GMT, Adrienne <arbpen2003 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>
wrote:

Quote:
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk
writing in news:6o6k01d0a84sl3nv6njr9t12v0v8755kel (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:41:33 GMT, Adrienne <arbpen2003 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net
wrote:

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "XxLicherxX"
goldhors64 (AT) aol (DOT) com> writing in
news:1105456661.221677.48310 (AT) f14g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com:

Hello everyone. I hope this is the right newsgroup to post this
question to. My apologies if it's not.

I am wondering if having a Flash movie on your index.* page has any
impact on search engine results. Please let me know.


It all depends on how you do it. If the navigation is in the Flash,
and there is no alternative navigation, then the bot cannot crawl the
site.

Remember that search engine bots are machines, so they cannot see,
listen, type, point or click here, and they are not impressed. What
they _can_ do is read logically marked up text. Use a text browser to
see what your site will look like to a search engine and design
accordingly.

Adrienne probably means the Lynx viewer at
http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

Hi Adrienne.

BB

Hi BB.

Delorie is a good choice, and Opera has text version, which is what I
usually use.
I tend to ignore Opera, which is bad of me I know. I have it and I
update it once a year or so, I just don't think of it somehow.

BB
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