Browser Testing

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:13:06 +0000 (UTC), Darin McGrew
<mcgrew (AT) stanfordalumni (DOT) org> wrote:

Opera uses the "a" and "q" shortcuts to navigate from one link to the next.

Never knew that. Learn something every day. Makes Opera even more attractive :-)

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:41:29 GMT, Adrienne <arbpen2003 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>
wrote:

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Lauri Raittila
lauri (AT) raittila (DOT) cjb.net> writing in
news:MPG.1c91615c9a332fec98a38a (AT) news (DOT) individual.net:

Mouse gestures make surfing much faster, if you use mouse (and Opera
happens to have best keyboard navigation as well.)

Session is very useful, you can close your browser and you get same
pages open again when you open browser next time (if you want). And
same when your computer crashes (so it is must on MS operating
systems).

Agreed.

I paid for Opera, too. I love it.

<AOL>
Me too.
</AOL>

Actually I tried out version 2 or 3 and wasn't very impressed at the
time, but I changed my mind with version 6.

The bits I like most are: zooming the page, switching images on/off with
a single key-stroke; quick switching on/off of styling and Javascript,
etc etc. Even the most appallingly designed sites [1] can be rendered
readable with Opera. (No guarantee they will contain anything worth
reading, of course.)

When you use IE, the author is in charge. When you use Opera, you - the
reader - are in charge. Firefox isn't bad, but from what I've seen so
far it's rather clunky compared to Opera.


[1] Well OK, not all of them. But a lot.

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:12:12 +0000, Toby Inkster
<usenet200503 (AT) tobyinkster (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

WebMaster wrote:

But ie on mac just isn't the same version as ie on windows,
regardless of them having a same version number...

That's not it. It's that they're not the same browser. They have 0 lines
of code in common. They are two completely different browsers with the
same name.

Same as if Mozilla had released a browser called "Mozilla Internet
Explorer".

Or the same as if Internet Explorer called itself "Mozilla" in the
user-agent string? <g>

Nick

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:15:27 +0100, "Barbara de Zoete"
<b_de_zoete (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:13:06 +0000 (UTC), Darin McGrew
mcgrew (AT) stanfordalumni (DOT) org> wrote:

Opera uses the "a" and "q" shortcuts to navigate from one link to the next.

Never knew that. Learn something every day. Makes Opera even more attractive :-)

Ctrl-B gives a list of the keyboard shortcuts.

Obviously very few people learn all of them, but if you read through
them there's a good chance you'll spot a couple that make you think
"that's handy".

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In article <030320051201220828%jimroyal (AT) canada (DOT) com>,
Jim Royal <jimroyal (AT) canada (DOT) com> wrote:

In article <macheads-08F9DC.11503203032005 (AT) news (DOT) verizon.net>, Nichola
Collins <macheads (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

I would add Mac Internet Explorer 4.51 to the Mac OS 9 collection.
That is the browser that is part of America Online 5, the latest AOL
client available to Mac OS 9 users.

I have not received a single hit on my site from IE 4.5 in the last few
months. I think this one can be safely relagated to the dust bin.

Unless you KNOW that your audience includes enough AOL users on Mac OS 9
that shouldn't be ignored entirely. At least to the extent of ensuring
the pages are readable, even if not necessarily pretty.

Not to be forgotten is that general recommendations may need to be
modified by what you know about your individual audience. Not all sites
have exactly the same audiences.

"Noel" wrote in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:50:00 -0500, Stan Brown
the_stan_brown (AT) fastmail (DOT) fm> wrote:

By the way, to answer another of your questions, I've been told
that you can't have two releases of IE on the same machine if one
of them is IE6. I haven't tested that myself.

I came across a site recently that described how you can get all
versions of IE from 6 back to 3 to co-exist on the one machine. Apart
from some weird stuff going on in the 'About' dialogs, it appear to
work very well for the author of the page. I'll dig the link out and
post it here.

Perhaps in the intervening eleven days, the reply to my comment
didn't reach your site.

I no longer recall who was kind enough to post the URL, but it's
http://labs.insert-title.com/labs/article795.aspx

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the_stan_brown (AT) fastmail (DOT) fm wrote:

"Noel" wrote in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.site-design:
Perhaps in the intervening eleven days, the reply to my comment
didn't reach your site.
I no longer recall who was kind enough to post the URL, but it's
http://labs.insert-title.com/labs/article795.aspx
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http://OakRoadSystems.com/

Great

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