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William Tasso
 
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Default stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 06:58 AM






Greetings One and All

Been musing recently about screen-readers and their interpretation of text.

How do they cope with full-stops (periods) used to signify an abbreviation?

For example: etc.

Do the period marks assist or are they a hindrance?

Thanks for reading.
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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 07:04 AM






On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:58:32 +0100, William Tasso <SpamBlocked (AT) tbdata (DOT) com>
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Greetings One and All

Been musing recently about screen-readers and their interpretation of
text.

How do they cope with full-stops (periods) used to signify an
abbreviation?

For example: etc.

Do the period marks assist or are they a hindrance?
Do you mark it up with <abbr></abbr>?

Is there any difference between if one does and if one doesn't?


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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 07:17 AM




William Tasso wrote:

Quote:
Greetings One and All

Been musing recently about screen-readers and their interpretation of text.

How do they cope with full-stops (periods) used to signify an abbreviation?

For example: etc.

Do the period marks assist or are they a hindrance?

Thanks for reading.
Umm ahh..... I don't think it makes any difference.....
I don't think it hinders the reading of text much eather.... I'm not
sure..... Never thaught about it much really.....................
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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 07:21 AM



Writing in
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Barbara de Zoete <b_de_zoete (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> said:

Quote:
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:58:32 +0100, William Tasso
SpamBlocked (AT) tbdata (DOT) com> wrote:

Greetings One and All

Been musing recently about screen-readers and their interpretation of
text.

How do they cope with full-stops (periods) used to signify an
abbreviation?

For example: etc.

Do the period marks assist or are they a hindrance?

Do you mark it up with <abbr></abbr>?
hrmm - hadn't considered that for abbreviations in common use. thanks for
the thought.

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Is there any difference between if one does and if one doesn't?
good question

obviously the markup is different - whether a screen reader makes any
distinction remains to be seen (for want of a better expression)

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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 07:31 AM



Wiliam...
Can you give us some sort of an example of what you are talking about.
If it is the situation where you use a range / group of full stops that
you are refering to..
Then yes. There is some times some slight disruption in the overall
flow of the text...
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William Tasso
 
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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 07:50 AM



Writing in
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Chaddy2222 <rockradio2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> said:

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Wiliam...
Can you give us some sort of an example of what you are talking about.
If it is the situation where you use a range / group of full stops that
you are refering to..
Then yes. There is some times some slight disruption in the overall
flow of the text...
Consider this sentence: "The admin had several housekeeping chores to
attend to, checking backup logs etc. before he could leave for the night."

The question is: how does a screen-reader interpret the period mark at the
end of "etc."? and would it the visitor be better served if the period
were omitted?

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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 08:49 AM



Quoth William Tasso in alt.www.webmaster

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The question is: how does a screen-reader interpret the period mark at
the end of "etc."? and would it the visitor be better served if the
period were omitted?
I believe it's safe to say that there would be a pause after etc, which would actually be appropriate in conversation. I think the
bigger question is how does the screen reader interpret 'etc' itself?

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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 09:04 AM



And lo, Matt-the-Hoople didst speak in
alt.http://www.webmaster,alt.comp.blind-...accessibility:

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I think the
bigger question is how does the screen reader interpret 'etc' itself?
ET-'k?

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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 11:02 AM



On most readers you can choose the verbosity for different modes, so the
answer depends on the way the individual has set it up.

Brian

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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked (AT) tbdata (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Greetings One and All

Been musing recently about screen-readers and their interpretation of
text.

How do they cope with full-stops (periods) used to signify an
abbreviation?

For example: etc.

Do the period marks assist or are they a hindrance?

Thanks for reading.
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William Tasso



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Brian Gaff
 
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Default Re: stop or not - 12-05-2005 , 11:03 AM



The other newsgroup posted to in recent threads does not exist on my server,
the html one, so is it a real group or what?

Brian

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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked (AT) tbdata (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Greetings One and All

Been musing recently about screen-readers and their interpretation of
text.

How do they cope with full-stops (periods) used to signify an
abbreviation?

For example: etc.

Do the period marks assist or are they a hindrance?

Thanks for reading.
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William Tasso



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