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Slava.Shklyar
 
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Default XHTML ? - 07-12-2005 , 05:46 PM






Is it true that creating pages in XHTML has positive effect on
advancement in the search engines, in particular in the Google ?

Thanks.


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Default Re: XHTML ? - 07-12-2005 , 06:18 PM






"Slava.Shklyar" <slava.shklyar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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Is it true that creating pages in XHTML has positive effect on
advancement in the search engines, in particular in the Google ?
I think it's safe to say no to that one :-D.

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Default Re: XHTML ? - 07-12-2005 , 06:54 PM



On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:18:34 -0300, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com>
wrote:

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"Slava.Shklyar" <slava.shklyar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Is it true that creating pages in XHTML has positive effect on
advancement in the search engines, in particular in the Google ?

I think it's safe to say no to that one :-D.
LOL thank God


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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: XHTML ? - 07-12-2005 , 07:01 PM



On 12 Jul 2005 14:46:29 -0700, "Slava.Shklyar"
<slava.shklyar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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Is it true that creating pages in XHTML has positive effect on
advancement in the search engines, in particular in the Google ?

Thanks.
No.

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Roy Schestowitz
 
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Default Re: XHTML ? - 07-12-2005 , 11:25 PM



Justin Sane wrote:

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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:18:34 -0300, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com
wrote:

"Slava.Shklyar" <slava.shklyar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Is it true that creating pages in XHTML has positive effect on
advancement in the search engines, in particular in the Google ?

I think it's safe to say no to that one :-D.

LOL thank God
If anything, pages written in XHTML will sometimes be larger, which slows
down crawling (by 1%?). *grin*

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Default Re: XHTML ? - 07-13-2005 , 05:19 AM



On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:25:30 +0200, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

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If anything, pages written in XHTML will sometimes be larger, which slows
down crawling (by 1%?). *grin*
In fact most of the pages are NEVER optimized for size. Google uses
one-letter names in their styles to cut on the traffic, but then the text
is formatted using <font color=#008000> tags That's abuse of resources.

Same happens throughout the web. Probably many services will be able to
cut the traffic in half (and cut on the traffic costs) just by clever HTML
coding.

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Default Re: XHTML - Code Optimisation - 07-13-2005 , 08:30 AM



Borek wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:25:30 +0200, Roy Schestowitz
newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

If anything, pages written in XHTML will sometimes be larger, which slows
down crawling (by 1%?). *grin*

In fact most of the pages are NEVER optimized for size. Google uses
one-letter names in their styles to cut on the traffic, but then the text
is formatted using <font color=#008000> tags That's abuse of resources.

Same happens throughout the web. Probably many services will be able to
cut the traffic in half (and cut on the traffic costs) just by clever HTML
coding.
It was you who mentioned the poor code in Webmasterworld. I took a look and
it turned out that you (or your friend) were right.

As for optimisation, with better machines and more bandwidth available all
the time (Moore's law), programmers become more resource-greedy. Spilling
memory, converting operating systems like OS X and Windows into resource
pigs and writing ugly HTML code -- all becomes a norm.

I have a pile of 20 or so Pentium 3's with 256 MB RAM in my office.
Apparently they are no longer good enough for users who run a word
processors and send jobs to the printer. Like people who commit suicide,
killing bodies that had nothing wrong with them to begin with, excellent
machines are tossed aside because nasty operating systems (which equate to
psychological issues) were installed within.

Roy

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Borek
 
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Default Re: XHTML - Code Optimisation - 07-13-2005 , 08:59 AM



On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:30:20 +0200, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
It was you who mentioned the poor code in Webmasterworld. I took a look
and it turned out that you (or your friend) were right.
It was Junior if I recall correctly. My blood

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small mouse
 
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Default Re: XHTML ? - 07-13-2005 , 09:30 AM



"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
On 12 Jul 2005 14:46:29 -0700, "Slava.Shklyar"
slava.shklyar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Is it true that creating pages in XHTML has positive effect on
advancement in the search engines, in particular in the Google ?

Thanks.

No.

BB
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www.kruse.co.uk/ seo (AT) kruse (DOT) demon.co.uk
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Just thought I'd mention that we converted one of our sites to XHTML and
rankings are much higher now , but we have been continuing with other SEO
practices too. We had a lot of problems with validating the HTML,
especiallly the pieces of javascript in menus etc.

Can somebody point me to the evidence which dispells this rumour? I'd be
interested to take a look.




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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: XHTML - Code Optimisation - 07-13-2005 , 09:50 AM



On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:30:20 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Borek wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:25:30 +0200, Roy Schestowitz
newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

If anything, pages written in XHTML will sometimes be larger, which slows
down crawling (by 1%?). *grin*

In fact most of the pages are NEVER optimized for size. Google uses
one-letter names in their styles to cut on the traffic, but then the text
is formatted using <font color=#008000> tags That's abuse of resources.

Same happens throughout the web. Probably many services will be able to
cut the traffic in half (and cut on the traffic costs) just by clever HTML
coding.

It was you who mentioned the poor code in Webmasterworld. I took a look and
it turned out that you (or your friend) were right.

As for optimisation, with better machines and more bandwidth available all
the time (Moore's law), programmers become more resource-greedy. Spilling
memory, converting operating systems like OS X and Windows into resource
pigs and writing ugly HTML code -- all becomes a norm.

I have a pile of 20 or so Pentium 3's with 256 MB RAM in my office.
Apparently they are no longer good enough for users who run a word
processors and send jobs to the printer. Like people who commit suicide,
killing bodies that had nothing wrong with them to begin with, excellent
machines are tossed aside because nasty operating systems (which equate to
psychological issues) were installed within.

Roy
Cluster them, Roy. Make'em work for a living!

BB
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