What Happened to my Site's Google Listing?

#1

My site (www.traditions.com) used to show up on google quite well. Now, it
is virtually invisible.

I tried searching google on traditions.com to see what other sites linked to
me and none were listed. However, I am linked to by other sites (e.g.
http://www.fifthavenuesouth.com/specialty_stores.php) that are included in
the google index.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann

#2

Mike Schumann wrote:

Quote:

My site (www.traditions.com) used to show up on google quite well. Now,
it is virtually invisible.

I tried searching google on traditions.com to see what other sites linked
to
me and none were listed. However, I am linked to by other sites (e.g.
http://www.fifthavenuesouth.com/specialty_stores.php) that are included in
the google index.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Thanks,

Hi, I'm not sure but shit happens

#3

"Jean-Marc Langevin" <jmarc (AT) k3-media (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Mike Schumann wrote:

My site (www.traditions.com) used to show up on google quite well. Now,
it is virtually invisible.

I tried searching google on traditions.com to see what other sites linked
to
me and none were listed. However, I am linked to by other sites (e.g.
http://www.fifthavenuesouth.com/specialty_stores.php) that are included
in
the google index.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Thanks,

Hi, I'm not sure but shit happens

You use frames which is not a good idea. It is complicated and search
engines may not navigate successfully.

Check your logs to see if Google can navigate your site successfully. Each
time I call one of your individual htm files it goes straight back to the
index page. You seem to have some redirect(s) in action and this kind of
trick may make it look like you have many different page names, all with the
same content.

Avoid hidden text. Since all your index page text is completely hidden you
very definitely appear to be spamming. I can't see any text on the screen
corresponding the four text paragraphs of <body> content of the index page.

It would be wise also to avoid microscopic unreadable text and
semi-invisible dark purple text on black background. It looks like you are
trying to hide something.

Best regards, Eric.

#4

"Eric Johnston" <nospam (AT) redyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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"Jean-Marc Langevin" <jmarc (AT) k3-media (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Mike Schumann wrote:

My site (www.traditions.com) used to show up on google quite well. Now,
it is virtually invisible.

I tried searching google on traditions.com to see what other sites
linked
to
me and none were listed. However, I am linked to by other sites (e.g.
http://www.fifthavenuesouth.com/specialty_stores.php) that are included
in
the google index.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Thanks,

Hi, I'm not sure but shit happens

You use frames which is not a good idea. It is complicated and search
engines may not navigate successfully.

Check your logs to see if Google can navigate your site successfully.
Each time I call one of your individual htm files it goes straight back to
the index page. You seem to have some redirect(s) in action and this kind
of trick may make it look like you have many different page names, all
with the same content.

Avoid hidden text. Since all your index page text is completely hidden
you very definitely appear to be spamming. I can't see any text on the
screen corresponding the four text paragraphs of <body> content of the
index page.

It would be wise also to avoid microscopic unreadable text and
semi-invisible dark purple text on black background. It looks like you
are trying to hide something.

Let us not ignore the obvious: WHERE'S THE CONTENT?

Using frames should not be a problem. I once designed a framed site for PAY
but the client was too anxious to wait for the testing to make sure that the
SEs were picking it up properly. Framing really isn't such a big deal. Once
you get into it....it CAN BE FUN. But not something you'll remember so
quickly. I'd have to spend a full 3-4 days just to get back into it myself.

AS FOR CONTENT?....well, where was it? there's no content on this site. If
there is then there's damned little of it.

Dude, if this site did show up well within Google then that would've been a
GODSEND.

#5

The content is:

1. Our locations and hours.
2. A list of the vendors that we carry, along with links to their web
sites, where available.
3. A description of our style (essentially a scanned image of our store
brochure).

The reason we use frames, is so that if you click to one of our
manufacturer's, you stay within the frame, instead of totally disappearing
off of our site.

We certainly aren't intentionally trying to spam google. I'm starting to
wonder if maybe their engine hasn't blacklisted us somehow, or if my
problems are related to the way our frames work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike Schumann

"WhoTurnedOffTheLights" <Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"Eric Johnston" <nospam (AT) redyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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"Jean-Marc Langevin" <jmarc (AT) k3-media (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:rguDf.2948$Sk1.88980 (AT) news20 (DOT) bellglobal.com...
Mike Schumann wrote:

My site (www.traditions.com) used to show up on google quite well.
Now,
it is virtually invisible.

I tried searching google on traditions.com to see what other sites
linked
to
me and none were listed. However, I am linked to by other sites (e.g.
http://www.fifthavenuesouth.com/specialty_stores.php) that are included
in
the google index.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Thanks,

Hi, I'm not sure but shit happens

You use frames which is not a good idea. It is complicated and search
engines may not navigate successfully.

Check your logs to see if Google can navigate your site successfully.
Each time I call one of your individual htm files it goes straight back
to the index page. You seem to have some redirect(s) in action and this
kind of trick may make it look like you have many different page names,
all with the same content.

Avoid hidden text. Since all your index page text is completely hidden
you very definitely appear to be spamming. I can't see any text on the
screen corresponding the four text paragraphs of <body> content of the
index page.

It would be wise also to avoid microscopic unreadable text and
semi-invisible dark purple text on black background. It looks like you
are trying to hide something.

Let us not ignore the obvious: WHERE'S THE CONTENT?

Using frames should not be a problem. I once designed a framed site for
PAY but the client was too anxious to wait for the testing to make sure
that the SEs were picking it up properly. Framing really isn't such a big
deal. Once you get into it....it CAN BE FUN. But not something you'll
remember so quickly. I'd have to spend a full 3-4 days just to get back
into it myself.

AS FOR CONTENT?....well, where was it? there's no content on this site. If
there is then there's damned little of it.

Dude, if this site did show up well within Google then that would've been
a GODSEND.

#6

"Mike Schumann" <mike-nospam (AT) traditions-nospam (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

The content is:

1. Our locations and hours.
2. A list of the vendors that we carry, along with links to their web
sites, where available.
3. A description of our style (essentially a scanned image of our store
brochure).

The reason we use frames, is so that if you click to one of our
manufacturer's, you stay within the frame, instead of totally disappearing
off of our site.

We certainly aren't intentionally trying to spam google. I'm starting to
wonder if maybe their engine hasn't blacklisted us somehow, or if my
problems are related to the way our frames work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike, it's evident that your intentions are good.
Yet it's also evident that you folks are lacking in the basics.

REGARDING SEARCH ENGINES:
Great that you've got links to relevant sites and such. BUT, when I say
content, I mean actual words, letters and text. Hey, it's not an awful
looking site at all. But you need actual text. Not just photos. It'd do you
well to add in text below (or above?) those images (or someplace within).
by the way, take a look at:
http://searchenginewatch.com/webmast...le.php/2167901
and do a further search on "Frames Search Engines"

FRONTPAGE:
Before even looking at the source for your page(s) I can tell already
someone created these Page(s) in FrontPage. I can almost smell it from a
mile away. Not entirely a problem but you might want to wait for someone
else to chime in about any other problems regarding this.

OTHER FRAME ISSUES:
Aside from the above, may I suggest you do a search for "Frames Suck".
Usually that'll give you a roster of sites that'll explain the mistakes
often incurred when creating framed sites. Again, I'm for frames, only if
carried out correctly.....Not that I remember how..............
:-D

#7

"WhoTurnedOffTheLights" <Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote

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"Mike Schumann" <mike-nospam (AT) traditions-nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The content is:

1. Our locations and hours.
2. A list of the vendors that we carry, along with links to their web
sites, where available.
3. A description of our style (essentially a scanned image of our store
brochure).

The reason we use frames, is so that if you click to one of our
manufacturer's, you stay within the frame, instead of totally
disappearing off of our site.

We certainly aren't intentionally trying to spam google. I'm starting to
wonder if maybe their engine hasn't blacklisted us somehow, or if my
problems are related to the way our frames work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike, LISTEN TO ME.

I just realized the obvious. There's NO REASON why your site should be
framed.
How about finding someone TRUSTWORTHY & HONEST who KNOWS what they're doing
to redo your site.

Under optimum circumstances your site can be redone in the span of an hour,
(2 hours at the most!).
It can be redone with everything that you wish and need. So keep that in
mind. There's no reason I see why you need a framed site. So when you try to
find someone, tell them exactly this: "This site can be redone in less than
2 hours! without frames" Don't get suckered and don't be too stubborn!

OKAY? I wish you the best pal.

#8

Hold on, he's got a point (with or without content) about Google
suddenly dropping him.

My site (actually it's a blog) used to rank quite well with Google (for
two years), and starting January 23, 2006, Google completely
banned/blocked me. All pages, cache, etc. completely gone from Google.

Now could it be that I have soft-porn pics on my site and I do write
about politics in Hong Kong / China? If so, I seem to be a victim of
Google's recent issues with US (porn) and China (censorship/politics).

BTW, I live in Hong Kong which is now part of China (though we have
different governments and systems), and my site is hosted on Typepad
(in US).

Site details:

Warning: Some posts may have adult content (click only if you are above
21) http://www.seelai.com

Cheers!

Ron

PS: It isn't because I have a duplicate address (the one Typepad
provided). Lots of other blogs have that alongside dotcom addresses,
but they are still showing up. And there are lots of other sex blogs or
political blogs from this area showing up in Google. Strange!

#9

So how do you link to someone else's web site inside your own frame without
using frames?

Mike Schumann

"Who Turned Off The Lights?" <Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote

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"WhoTurnedOffTheLights" <Lights (AT) light0987654321 (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Mike Schumann" <mike-nospam (AT) traditions-nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The content is:

1. Our locations and hours.
2. A list of the vendors that we carry, along with links to their web
sites, where available.
3. A description of our style (essentially a scanned image of our store
brochure).

The reason we use frames, is so that if you click to one of our
manufacturer's, you stay within the frame, instead of totally
disappearing off of our site.

We certainly aren't intentionally trying to spam google. I'm starting
to wonder if maybe their engine hasn't blacklisted us somehow, or if my
problems are related to the way our frames work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike, LISTEN TO ME.

I just realized the obvious. There's NO REASON why your site should be
framed.
How about finding someone TRUSTWORTHY & HONEST who KNOWS what they're
doing
to redo your site.

Under optimum circumstances your site can be redone in the span of an
hour, (2 hours at the most!).
It can be redone with everything that you wish and need. So keep that in
mind. There's no reason I see why you need a framed site. So when you try
to find someone, tell them exactly this: "This site can be redone in less
than 2 hours! without frames" Don't get suckered and don't be too
stubborn!

OKAY? I wish you the best pal.

#10

"GlobeTrekker" <SeeLaiHK (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Hold on, he's got a point (with or without content) about Google
suddenly dropping him.

My site (actually it's a blog) used to rank quite well with Google (for
two years), and starting January 23, 2006, Google completely
banned/blocked me. All pages, cache, etc. completely gone from Google.

Now could it be that I have soft-porn pics on my site and I do write
about politics in Hong Kong / China? If so, I seem to be a victim of
Google's recent issues with US (porn) and China (censorship/politics).

BTW, I live in Hong Kong which is now part of China (though we have
different governments and systems), and my site is hosted on Typepad
(in US).

Your situation hardly applies to this discussion:

Politics + Sex + China = Big Time Trouble