Stage three of bad coding

HTML or XHTML? From what I know about HTML is that it's extremely
difficult, hence the validator is not 100% perfect. XML was made to
simplify things.

XHTML. It was found by http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ - a
funny hyphen-like thing.

"Phil Payne" <phil (AT) isham-research (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

HTML or XHTML? From what I know about HTML is that it's extremely
difficult, hence the validator is not 100% perfect. XML was made to
simplify things.

XHTML. It was found by http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ - a
funny hyphen-like thing.

Cool. You know for sure if htmlhelp is right, and w3 is wrong?

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On 17 Dec 2006 01:12:56 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Big Bill <bill (AT) kruse (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

This assumes you know what grep means (I don't)

C'mon Bill, don't tell me you never unzipped and grepped around a bit :-)

In this case, what Tips does with Grep, you can do with Search in Windows
XP: Click the magnifier, and search in all files and folders for files
ending in, say php, containing h1.

I use Find in Files in TextPad the most for stuff like this.

and it also assumes
that the coders of the CMS allow you anywhere within spitting distance
of their proprietary code.

Open Souce CMS do. And I guess quite some closed source CMS use a template
system of sorts.

True. Go look at Advansys, for instance. They use a template for their
CMS and no-one's allowed near it.

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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:30:51 -0500, Tips
<see_reply-to_address (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Big Bill wrote:


I'm refused ftp access ironically in the
most needy cases, and so is everyone else. Potential damage caused by
incompetence (moi??) and intellectual copyright are cited as the
reasons why.

You could explain to the client that the CMS is causing search engine
problems, but that the developers won't allow you FTP access to fix the
problems. It's out of your hands if you aren't allowed into the code.

But the problem, you see, is that the clients don't want to accept
that they've paid good money for something that can't be optimised.
Neither do the developers wish to be told that their revered creation
is a crock of shit, even though it undoubtedly is. Nor do I wish to
find out time after time that I'm not going to able to turn yet
another promising enquiry into an ongoing client.

And/or, just provide detailed recommendations to the developers. "Hands-off
SEO"... let them figure out how to fix the code.

Alas, they don't seem keen on providing royalties, or even a small
"Developed in association with..." sticker on the rear bumper.

Or... if they will let you download the code, you could fix it on a local
copy and send them the fixes.

They won't. In-house only. Probably tied-in with aggressive
non-disclosure arrangements.

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On 17 Dec 2006 01:58:59 GMT, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Tips <see_reply-to_address (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Big Bill wrote:


I'm refused ftp access ironically in the
most needy cases, and so is everyone else. Potential damage caused by
incompetence (moi??) and intellectual copyright are cited as the
reasons why.

You could explain to the client that the CMS is causing search engine
problems, but that the developers won't allow you FTP access to fix
the problems. It's out of your hands if you aren't allowed into the
code.

And/or, just provide detailed recommendations to the developers.
"Hands-off SEO"... let them figure out how to fix the code.

Or... if they will let you download the code, you could fix it on a
local copy and send them the fixes.

Or you could spank them until they fix it :-) (Which I prefer)

Me too. Since I'd have most development teams outweighed on my own,
they tend not to want to rumble.

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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:23:10 -0500, Tips
<see_reply-to_address (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:

John Bokma wrote:

Tips <see_reply-to_address (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:

Nice... I've never had a problem with Cygwin, but will check out the
other tools.

I used Cygwin for some time back in 2003, and somehow I considered it too
much of a hassle. It was like living on the border between two countries
:-) I often started the "wrong" Perl, etc. And after some time I decided
that if I wanted *nix that bad, I should use it.

I prefer Linux, but often have to use Windows. I put Cygwin on my computer
just so I wouldn't have to reboot to mess around with log files. Recently
found an easy way to boot Damn Small Linux inside of Windows, but haven't
figured out how to transfer files from one OS to the other...

Do you suppose Tips is really Roy in disguise?

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Big Bill <bill (AT) kruse (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Do you suppose Tips is really Roy in disguise?

No idea.

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Big Bill wrote:

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:23:10 -0500, Tips
see_reply-to_address (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:

I prefer Linux, but often have to use Windows. I put Cygwin on my
computer
just so I wouldn't have to reboot to mess around with log files. Recently
found an easy way to boot Damn Small Linux inside of Windows, but haven't
figured out how to transfer files from one OS to the other...


Do you suppose Tips is really Roy in disguise?

No... not Roy.

For me whether it's a CMS or Static site on html it's ok as long
that it is optimize properly both in off and in page and it is reach on
content...


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