To splashpage or not to splashpage?

On 2 Oct 2006 10:41:35 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

David wrote:

????

So, the point is?

www.naturalhealthmag.com/ is #1

That's not a point.

Therefore, not having the word natural separated by a dash does NOT
doom my site to failure.

Who said it did, and it's hyphen not dash :-)

In fact, I would say that the trend is not
using the dash to separate words.

That's called a guess.

A few SEO's actually spend time researching this stuff and your guess
is wrong. Easy mistake to make for newbies to SEO though especially
when Google suggests it parses one word domains like yours in the
SERPs as it highlights the words from searches like
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ealth+magazine

If all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail:
Certainly, is starting to apply, here.

Also you can always hyphenate filenames like you have here
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/...-medicine.html so you
at least get a boost for the words holistic and medicine.

Which is better? holistic-medicine.html or holistic_medicine.html ?

A lot has to do with whether you pick the right name for the page to
begin with.

I have a few goofs that I am in the process of correcting, but they are
minor issues. I have around 130 web pages to fool with.

I have re-designed my home page nearly 100%. I have added the Keyword
Wellness. I am going to anchor all references to my home page with the
keyword wellness. I might make my menu buttons bigger. The new design
makes sense to me. The new layout looks just about right. If my
position suddenly goes up in Google due to new page content and a
greatly increased keyword density, then I will go on to redesign my
Level - 2 pages. Otherwise, I wont.

Everything else appears to me at this point to be a non-issue.

How much organic search engine traffic do you get a day?

Not much, I would like to increase page views on average by one
thousand a day as a result of my latest SEO efforts, which I will
measure during the month of March 2007. Page views very from 350 to
3,000 a day. Of this, only 40% comes from the search engines. I get
referrals from at least 20 different search engines: Mostly Google
followed by half-as-much from Yahoo, and 6% from MSN.

The keyword 'Natural Health' is not a top draw on my site. Right now,
it is about number 10. I would like to see more traffic from all of
the major keywords on my site. So, I felt that my home page was as
good as place to start as any, if not THE perfect place.

The first step in my latest SEO efforts was to change the company
hosting my site, to Linux Hosting by HostMySite.com. Previously, I had
Re-Direction problems which no longer exist as a result of the move at
the end of August.

I have also quantified Good keywords from researching:
http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword/#results
I got the major keyswords for Level 1 and 2 web pages, with hard
numbers which are guesses. But, certainly more realistic than my
imagination.

That's a point BTW :-)

If I
ever think of anything new, I will let you guys know.

If you know so much why are you wasting your time asking for help?

Got tired of Google support forums. After a while, one can only take
so much of Google is good and great. I needed to move beyond Google
Sitemaps and PC nonsense. I do NOT need to stand on my head, or jump
up and down all day.

I want measurable and observable results.

I want to do this SEO, once, and get it over with as soon as possible.

It ain't like that. It's volatile out there. But if you observe best
practices you should be ok.

BB
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:41:35 +0200, johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Which is better? holistic-medicine.html or holistic_medicine.html ?

You were already told: go for holistic-medicine.html

Borek
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:04:32 +0200, Borek
<m.borkowski (AT) delete (DOT) chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:41:35 +0200, johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Which is better? holistic-medicine.html or holistic_medicine.html ?

You were already told: go for holistic-medicine.html

Borek

I wouldn't waste your time Borek, he doesn't want to listen and learn
new stuff.

David
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David wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:04:32 +0200, Borek
m.borkowski (AT) delete (DOT) chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:41:35 +0200, johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Which is better? holistic-medicine.html or holistic_medicine.html ?

You were already told: go for holistic-medicine.html

Borek

I wouldn't waste your time Borek, he doesn't want to listen and learn
new stuff.

It already is holistic-medicine.html

So, what is the problem? ANSWER, there is NO problem. Why am I NOT
surprised?

Why you guys are going on and on about this non-issue is totally beyond
me.

Big Bill wrote:

On 2 Oct 2006 10:41:35 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

David wrote:

????

So, the point is?

www.naturalhealthmag.com/ is #1

That's not a point.

Therefore, not having the word natural separated by a dash does NOT
doom my site to failure.

Who said it did, and it's hyphen not dash :-)

In fact, I would say that the trend is not
using the dash to separate words.

That's called a guess.

A few SEO's actually spend time researching this stuff and your guess
is wrong. Easy mistake to make for newbies to SEO though especially
when Google suggests it parses one word domains like yours in the
SERPs as it highlights the words from searches like
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ealth+magazine

If all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail:
Certainly, is starting to apply, here.

Also you can always hyphenate filenames like you have here
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/...-medicine.html so you
at least get a boost for the words holistic and medicine.

Which is better? holistic-medicine.html or holistic_medicine.html ?

A lot has to do with whether you pick the right name for the page to
begin with.

I have a few goofs that I am in the process of correcting, but they are
minor issues. I have around 130 web pages to fool with.

I have re-designed my home page nearly 100%. I have added the Keyword
Wellness. I am going to anchor all references to my home page with the
keyword wellness. I might make my menu buttons bigger. The new design
makes sense to me. The new layout looks just about right. If my
position suddenly goes up in Google due to new page content and a
greatly increased keyword density, then I will go on to redesign my
Level - 2 pages. Otherwise, I wont.

Everything else appears to me at this point to be a non-issue.

How much organic search engine traffic do you get a day?

Not much, I would like to increase page views on average by one
thousand a day as a result of my latest SEO efforts, which I will
measure during the month of March 2007. Page views very from 350 to
3,000 a day. Of this, only 40% comes from the search engines. I get
referrals from at least 20 different search engines: Mostly Google
followed by half-as-much from Yahoo, and 6% from MSN.

The keyword 'Natural Health' is not a top draw on my site. Right now,
it is about number 10. I would like to see more traffic from all of
the major keywords on my site. So, I felt that my home page was as
good as place to start as any, if not THE perfect place.

The first step in my latest SEO efforts was to change the company
hosting my site, to Linux Hosting by HostMySite.com. Previously, I had
Re-Direction problems which no longer exist as a result of the move at
the end of August.

I have also quantified Good keywords from researching:
http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword/#results
I got the major keyswords for Level 1 and 2 web pages, with hard
numbers which are guesses. But, certainly more realistic than my
imagination.

That's a point BTW :-)

If I
ever think of anything new, I will let you guys know.

If you know so much why are you wasting your time asking for help?

Got tired of Google support forums. After a while, one can only take
so much of Google is good and great. I needed to move beyond Google
Sitemaps and PC nonsense. I do NOT need to stand on my head, or jump
up and down all day.

I want measurable and observable results.

I want to do this SEO, once, and get it over with as soon as possible.

It ain't like that. It's volatile out there. But if you observe best
practices you should be ok.

The way it is, is that my web site is a total mess. At the end of this
SEO process my web site wont be a mess any more. It will be better
organized. I will be using CSS on all my pages. And, it will be better
placed in the search engines. And, will be receiving more targeted
referrals from SERPs that address the major topics of my site. That
currently is NOT happening.

So, the question is do what? Certainly, it is NOT picking a new domain
name. Certainly, it is NOT renaming a few pages out of 130 pages.
Those are minor issues.

It is starting Top-Down, and SEO one page at a time for for my Level 1
and 2 web pages. It is about having a game plan that is based upon
logic and proven results.

It is positively not about getting all worked up in order to entertain
some SEOs on some newsgroup.

It is about actually doing it. It positively is NOT about talking
about minor issues on some newsgroup.

Who says so? I do? The master and commander of my web site.

On 3 Oct 2006 03:34:02 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Big Bill wrote:
On 2 Oct 2006 10:41:35 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

David wrote:

????

So, the point is?

www.naturalhealthmag.com/ is #1

That's not a point.

Therefore, not having the word natural separated by a dash does NOT
doom my site to failure.

Who said it did, and it's hyphen not dash :-)

In fact, I would say that the trend is not
using the dash to separate words.

That's called a guess.

A few SEO's actually spend time researching this stuff and your guess
is wrong. Easy mistake to make for newbies to SEO though especially
when Google suggests it parses one word domains like yours in the
SERPs as it highlights the words from searches like
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ealth+magazine

If all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail:
Certainly, is starting to apply, here.

Also you can always hyphenate filenames like you have here
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/...-medicine.html so you
at least get a boost for the words holistic and medicine.

Which is better? holistic-medicine.html or holistic_medicine.html ?

A lot has to do with whether you pick the right name for the page to
begin with.

I have a few goofs that I am in the process of correcting, but they are
minor issues. I have around 130 web pages to fool with.

I have re-designed my home page nearly 100%. I have added the Keyword
Wellness. I am going to anchor all references to my home page with the
keyword wellness. I might make my menu buttons bigger. The new design
makes sense to me. The new layout looks just about right. If my
position suddenly goes up in Google due to new page content and a
greatly increased keyword density, then I will go on to redesign my
Level - 2 pages. Otherwise, I wont.

Everything else appears to me at this point to be a non-issue.

How much organic search engine traffic do you get a day?

Not much, I would like to increase page views on average by one
thousand a day as a result of my latest SEO efforts, which I will
measure during the month of March 2007. Page views very from 350 to
3,000 a day. Of this, only 40% comes from the search engines. I get
referrals from at least 20 different search engines: Mostly Google
followed by half-as-much from Yahoo, and 6% from MSN.

The keyword 'Natural Health' is not a top draw on my site. Right now,
it is about number 10. I would like to see more traffic from all of
the major keywords on my site. So, I felt that my home page was as
good as place to start as any, if not THE perfect place.

The first step in my latest SEO efforts was to change the company
hosting my site, to Linux Hosting by HostMySite.com. Previously, I had
Re-Direction problems which no longer exist as a result of the move at
the end of August.

I have also quantified Good keywords from researching:
http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword/#results
I got the major keyswords for Level 1 and 2 web pages, with hard
numbers which are guesses. But, certainly more realistic than my
imagination.

That's a point BTW :-)

If I
ever think of anything new, I will let you guys know.

If you know so much why are you wasting your time asking for help?

Got tired of Google support forums. After a while, one can only take
so much of Google is good and great. I needed to move beyond Google
Sitemaps and PC nonsense. I do NOT need to stand on my head, or jump
up and down all day.

I want measurable and observable results.

I want to do this SEO, once, and get it over with as soon as possible.

It ain't like that. It's volatile out there. But if you observe best
practices you should be ok.

The way it is, is that my web site is a total mess. At the end of this
SEO process my web site wont be a mess any more. It will be better
organized. I will be using CSS on all my pages. And, it will be better
placed in the search engines. And, will be receiving more targeted
referrals from SERPs that address the major topics of my site. That
currently is NOT happening.

So, the question is do what? Certainly, it is NOT picking a new domain
name. Certainly, it is NOT renaming a few pages out of 130 pages.
Those are minor issues.

It is starting Top-Down, and SEO one page at a time for for my Level 1
and 2 web pages. It is about having a game plan that is based upon
logic and proven results.

It is positively not about getting all worked up in order to entertain
some SEOs on some newsgroup.

Damn!

It is about actually doing it. It positively is NOT about talking
about minor issues on some newsgroup.

Double-damn!

Who says so? I do? The master and commander of my web site.

<sulks>BB</sulks>


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http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/lithographs.htm

So, the point is?

What I have noticed about SEO people is that they seemly delite in
making us website operators neurotic over non-issues.

Everything else appears to me at this point to be a non-issue.

Damn! I really nailed it a month ago.

I got you SEO drogies down pat.

You drogies really need to try harder, next time.

David <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

If google could parse something from naturalhealthperspective.com why
would it go with-

natural health perspective

Because each word in itself appears on that site?

Also notice:

<span class="a"><b>natural</b><b>health</b><b>perspective</b>.com/

view source of:
http://www.google.com/search?q=natur...%20perspective

There are probably also some simple rules to break
gluedenglishwordsinpartsthatmakesense. If not, a dictionary helps :-)

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Borek <m.borkowski (AT) delete (DOT) chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:41:12 +0200, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com
wrote:

There are probably also some simple rules to break
gluedenglishwordsinpartsthatmakesense. If not, a dictionary helps :-)

Not always...

1. A site called 'Who Represents' where you can find the name of the
agent that represents a celebrity. Their domain name is
www.whorepresents.com

[..]

10. Want to holiday in Lake Tahoe? Try their brochure website at
www.gotahoe.com

:-)

All in the context of "Because each word in itself appears on that site?".

I think if "www.whorepresents.com" has on the page: Buy a present for your
favorite hooker, Google will break it (the domain name) in pieces in a
different way.

Now *there* is something we can actually try :-)


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