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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 01:35 AM






David wrote:

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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:36:54 -0400, z <news01.web (AT) mailnull (DOT) com> wrote:

I've never heard of an SEO believing change the font colour helps with
SEO though. Since webpages can be white on black, black of white text
etc... I very much doubt search engine care about font colours used.

Bright yellow works particularly well for MSN optimization.

Did you miss a smiley on the above?

Sorry... strange sense of humor.


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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 06:33 AM






On 30 Sep 2006 19:34:46 -0700,
"johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Paul wrote:

Okay, how does it look now?

Looks better.

Not too sure about having this though : This web page was modified on
September 30, 2006. - Bit pointless and nobody really cares. Easily
faked.

And if "Please read INFO and FAQ before using this site." is so
important, then why is it at the very bottom ?

These items are required by the Swiss organization that accredits my
health website. The bottom of the page is the traditional place to
locate these types of notices. If you want to check a site's privacy
policy, the bottom of the page is the place to look for this type of
information. My privacy policy is included in the Info page.
I was just wondering why at the bottom if they were supposed to be
read *before* using the site. I doubt many will even go to the bottom
of the page because they would have already clicked on something and
left the page. Do you see my point ?

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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 08:20 AM



Paul wrote:

Quote:
And if "Please read INFO and FAQ before using this site." is so
important, then why is it at the very bottom ?

These items are required by the Swiss organization that accredits my
health website. The bottom of the page is the traditional place to
locate these types of notices. If you want to check a site's privacy
policy, the bottom of the page is the place to look for this type of
information. My privacy policy is included in the Info page.

I was just wondering why at the bottom if they were supposed to be
read *before* using the site. I doubt many will even go to the bottom
of the page because they would have already clicked on something and
left the page. Do you see my point ?
In life, it is best NOT to over analyze. A lot of stuff in life is
pure B/S. At one point, I was putting some disclaimers on top of the
page. All it really did was mess up the page.

The same goes for the copyright notice. Why no comment there? Just
like in a book, the copyright notice should be on top of the page. Is
the copyright notice really necessary at all? Legally the answer is
no. Do you even need to register your copyright? etc., etc., etc.

Tradition, places the copyright notice at the very bottom of web pages
even if it is just plain wrong.

Time to get over it. The powers that be decided long ago to place
information like privacy policies at the very bottom of the page. When
in Rome, I do what the Romans do. Confirmity to standards, as in the
Windows layout concept of good program design, can go a long way to
making life easier on the web.



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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 09:13 AM



I have studied the following two recommended hyperlinks.

http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in...p-10-seo-tips/
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/anc...imization.html

Using the suggested test found in the Anchor Text Optimization page, I
was able to operationally determine that Google does in fact totally
ignore "Title tags for text links." That simple test kept me from
going totally nuts, yet again. Nolonger will I have to re-write all of
my web pages to insert title tags. Nevertheless, I might still add a
few title tags where the text link is quite tiny for the benefit of the
user.

Reminds me of people constantly harping about the Desc Tag. From what
I have seen, SERPs generally ignores the Desc Tag. They either go for
the first paragraph on the page, or display text from where ever the
search text was matched. Only under unusal situations does the Desc
Tag description ever show up. Ergo, except for top level sub-domains,
a desc tag is not very important, IMHO. I do like to test ideas with
SERPs.

But it does bring up the topic of anchor text for home pages. I happen
to have a long website name. It is easy for 'SEO Gold' to implement.
But, not quite so easy for me to use anchor text.

I could go with [NHP Home]. That would work for me, but NHP would have
no meaning for anyone else.

So, I will go with [Wellness Home], instead. Wellness is really short
hand for natural health. It also translates better into other
languages. That means back to the drawing board for yet another total
re-write of my home page for the keyword wellness. But, at least now I
have a logical reason for doing it, yet another time. And, a logical
reason for adding wellness to the heading. And, the implementation of
anchor text for my home page on my site might actually improve the SERP
for 'wellness' if not 'natural health.'

[Home] is user friendly, but it certainly did nothing for my SERP.
[Wellness Home] might actually help. Who knows???

I am re-writing my basic page templates anyway, in order to implement
limited use of cascading style sheets. So, I am basically taking time
out in the hopes of SEO my site to a design that I can live with, wont
constantly be changing, and will be good for ten years or so. I would
like to have my life back.


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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 10:15 AM



On 1 Oct 2006 06:13:14 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I have studied the following two recommended hyperlinks.

http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in...p-10-seo-tips/
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/anc...imization.html

Using the suggested test found in the Anchor Text Optimization page, I
was able to operationally determine that Google does in fact totally
ignore "Title tags for text links." That simple test kept me from
going totally nuts, yet again. Nolonger will I have to re-write all of
my web pages to insert title tags. Nevertheless, I might still add a
few title tags where the text link is quite tiny for the benefit of the
user.
Why not just use bigger text in the links in the first place?

Quote:
Reminds me of people constantly harping about the Desc Tag. From what
I have seen, SERPs generally ignores the Desc Tag. They either go for
the first paragraph on the page, or display text from where ever the
search text was matched. Only under unusal situations does the Desc
Tag description ever show up. Ergo, except for top level sub-domains,
a desc tag is not very important, IMHO. I do like to test ideas with
SERPs.
Use the desc tag as a sales pitch.

Quote:
But it does bring up the topic of anchor text for home pages. I happen
to have a long website name. It is easy for 'SEO Gold' to implement.
But, not quite so easy for me to use anchor text.

I could go with [NHP Home]. That would work for me, but NHP would have
no meaning for anyone else.

So, I will go with [Wellness Home], instead. Wellness is really short
hand for natural health. It also translates better into other
languages. That means back to the drawing board for yet another total
re-write of my home page for the keyword wellness. But, at least now I
have a logical reason for doing it, yet another time. And, a logical
reason for adding wellness to the heading. And, the implementation of
anchor text for my home page on my site might actually improve the SERP
for 'wellness' if not 'natural health.'

[Home] is user friendly, but it certainly did nothing for my SERP.
[Wellness Home] might actually help. Who knows???
It helps to identify the content of the home page and thus the site as
a whole.

BB
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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 12:57 PM



Big Bill wrote:
Quote:
On 1 Oct 2006 06:13:14 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

I have studied the following two recommended hyperlinks.

http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in...p-10-seo-tips/
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/anc...imization.html

Using the suggested test found in the Anchor Text Optimization page, I
was able to operationally determine that Google does in fact totally
ignore "Title tags for text links." That simple test kept me from
going totally nuts, yet again. Nolonger will I have to re-write all of
my web pages to insert title tags. Nevertheless, I might still add a
few title tags where the text link is quite tiny for the benefit of the
user.

Why not just use bigger text in the links in the first place?
Because ...

Because of the usual reasons of good web page design. Not everyone,
including me, is using the latest hardware. I am running, believe it
or not, Windows95 at 800 x 600 resolution in 256 colors on a 14
monitor. Too much info on one line and the row will wrap. Not
everyone is using a 21 inch monitor. I believe that the average user
visiting my site is using the next resolution size up. For them, the
page header and page footer will look just about right. And, I have
experimented with different font sizes.

If the fonts are too small, the user is obviously using the wrong font
size for their screen resolution. And, they also are obviously using a
web browser that does not provide for text zooming.

I fished my Window95 system out of the dumpster. And, believe it or
not, it has the fastest modem connect speed of all the computers that I
have used at home. Windows95 has a smaller profile which means it
works well with very little ram. I bought yesterday, a 3 Gig harddrive
at a computer fair for $3.00. It will solve the current 1 Gig
harddrive problem quite nicely. It is a junk computer which I use to
connect to the web. This Windows95 computer has a big 40 Megs of RAM.
That 1 Gig harddrive used to knock horribly loud like it was about to
die. So, I kept on banging on the computer case to keep the computer
from locking up. Guess what? I banged it so hard while I was on the
Internet that I fixed it!!! I have not had a problem with the
harddrive since.

I have noticed that internal modems always manage, on a cheap computer
at least, to lock up. That causes the computer to lock up. In turn it
forces me to turn the power off. Which manages to totally destory the
operating system files and all the other files on the computer. That
is why I am using this junk computer, now. Why should anyone spend
more than $20 on their Internet computer?

I recently experienced a major computer failure becuase my internet
computer always locked up. Just now managed to recovered my data from
that computer. It appeared to have had a bad system board that finally
destoried the operating system files beyond repair. It took for ever
to load, And, was always locking up. And, that was my good computer.


I now have a baby Windows XP professional system at home. I am going
to get an external modem for it. Hopefully, that will prevent the
computer from locking up. It also happens to have 256 Megs of RAM. I
don't want the good computer to lock up on me.

And, believe it or not, my What You See Is What You Get HTML editor is
Visual Page v 1.0. It has a small profile and forces me to work
without changing fonts. I use 1st Page 2000 to develop the webpage
templates with cascading style sheets. Visual Page destorys style
classes, but it allows me to develop text visually. I simply paste the
two parts together with 1st Page. The combination works quite well on
my Windows95 system.

Quote:
Reminds me of people constantly harping about the Desc Tag. From what
I have seen, SERPs generally ignores the Desc Tag. They either go for
the first paragraph on the page, or display text from where ever the
search text was matched. Only under unusal situations does the Desc
Tag description ever show up. Ergo, except for top level sub-domains,
a desc tag is not very important, IMHO. I do like to test ideas with
SERPs.

Use the desc tag as a sales pitch.

But it does bring up the topic of anchor text for home pages. I happen
to have a long website name. It is easy for 'SEO Gold' to implement.
But, not quite so easy for me to use anchor text.

I could go with [NHP Home]. That would work for me, but NHP would have
no meaning for anyone else.

So, I will go with [Wellness Home], instead. Wellness is really short
hand for natural health. It also translates better into other
languages. That means back to the drawing board for yet another total
re-write of my home page for the keyword wellness. But, at least now I
have a logical reason for doing it, yet another time. And, a logical
reason for adding wellness to the heading. And, the implementation of
anchor text for my home page on my site might actually improve the SERP
for 'wellness' if not 'natural health.'

[Home] is user friendly, but it certainly did nothing for my SERP.
[Wellness Home] might actually help. Who knows???

It helps to identify the content of the home page and thus the site as
a whole.
Level 1 is the home page.

Level 2 are the sub-domain indexes.

Level 3 are the articles.

Level 4 ... There are no Level 4 pages.

I have Desc Tags on my Level 1 and 2 webpages. I cannot say the same
for the Level 3 articles.

Also, other websites refer to my site by the name of my site. I cannot
imagine any other site calling it 'Natural Health and Wellness.'
SEO-Gold is just a good choice of domains names. I wont change domain
names for anyone.



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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 01:11 PM



On 1 Oct 2006 09:57:12 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Big Bill wrote:
On 1 Oct 2006 06:13:14 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

I have studied the following two recommended hyperlinks.

http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in...p-10-seo-tips/
http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/anc...imization.html

Using the suggested test found in the Anchor Text Optimization page, I
was able to operationally determine that Google does in fact totally
ignore "Title tags for text links." That simple test kept me from
going totally nuts, yet again. Nolonger will I have to re-write all of
my web pages to insert title tags. Nevertheless, I might still add a
few title tags where the text link is quite tiny for the benefit of the
user.

Why not just use bigger text in the links in the first place?

Because ...

Because of the usual reasons of good web page design. Not everyone,
including me, is using the latest hardware. I am running, believe it
or not, Windows95 at 800 x 600 resolution in 256 colors on a 14
monitor.
Why?

Quote:
Too much info on one line and the row will wrap. Not
everyone is using a 21 inch monitor. I believe that the average user
visiting my site is using the next resolution size up.
1024 x 768.

Quote:
For them, the
page header and page footer will look just about right. And, I have
experimented with different font sizes.

If the fonts are too small, the user is obviously using the wrong font
size for their screen resolution. And, they also are obviously using a
web browser that does not provide for text zooming.

I fished my Window95 system out of the dumpster. And, believe it or
not, it has the fastest modem connect speed of all the computers that I
have used at home.
Modem? Ye Gods...

Quote:
Windows95 has a smaller profile which means it
works well with very little ram. I bought yesterday, a 3 Gig harddrive
at a computer fair for $3.00. It will solve the current 1 Gig
harddrive problem quite nicely. It is a junk computer which I use to
connect to the web. This Windows95 computer has a big 40 Megs of RAM.
That 1 Gig harddrive used to knock horribly loud like it was about to
die. So, I kept on banging on the computer case to keep the computer
from locking up. Guess what? I banged it so hard while I was on the
Internet that I fixed it!!! I have not had a problem with the
harddrive since.

I have noticed that internal modems always manage, on a cheap computer
at least, to lock up. That causes the computer to lock up. In turn it
forces me to turn the power off. Which manages to totally destory the
operating system files and all the other files on the computer. That
is why I am using this junk computer, now. Why should anyone spend
more than $20 on their Internet computer?
Faster connection would be my guess.

Quote:
I recently experienced a major computer failure becuase my internet
computer always locked up. Just now managed to recovered my data from
that computer. It appeared to have had a bad system board that finally
destoried the operating system files beyond repair. It took for ever
to load, And, was always locking up. And, that was my good computer.

Exactly what year are you posting from?

Quote:
I now have a baby Windows XP professional system at home.
Steady!

Quote:
I am going
to get an external modem for it. Hopefully, that will prevent the
computer from locking up. It also happens to have 256 Megs of RAM. I
don't want the good computer to lock up on me.
You want to try fitting a couple of gig in, that might allay any
potential problems before they begin.

Quote:
And, believe it or not, my What You See Is What You Get HTML editor is
Visual Page v 1.0. It has a small profile and forces me to work
without changing fonts. I use 1st Page 2000 to develop the webpage
templates with cascading style sheets. Visual Page destorys style
classes, but it allows me to develop text visually. I simply paste the
two parts together with 1st Page. The combination works quite well on
my Windows95 system.
I'm going to examine your code with my eyes wide shut.

Quote:
Reminds me of people constantly harping about the Desc Tag. From what
I have seen, SERPs generally ignores the Desc Tag. They either go for
the first paragraph on the page, or display text from where ever the
search text was matched. Only under unusal situations does the Desc
Tag description ever show up. Ergo, except for top level sub-domains,
a desc tag is not very important, IMHO. I do like to test ideas with
SERPs.

Use the desc tag as a sales pitch.

But it does bring up the topic of anchor text for home pages. I happen
to have a long website name. It is easy for 'SEO Gold' to implement.
But, not quite so easy for me to use anchor text.

I could go with [NHP Home]. That would work for me, but NHP would have
no meaning for anyone else.

So, I will go with [Wellness Home], instead. Wellness is really short
hand for natural health. It also translates better into other
languages. That means back to the drawing board for yet another total
re-write of my home page for the keyword wellness. But, at least now I
have a logical reason for doing it, yet another time. And, a logical
reason for adding wellness to the heading. And, the implementation of
anchor text for my home page on my site might actually improve the SERP
for 'wellness' if not 'natural health.'

[Home] is user friendly, but it certainly did nothing for my SERP.
[Wellness Home] might actually help. Who knows???

It helps to identify the content of the home page and thus the site as
a whole.

Level 1 is the home page.

Level 2 are the sub-domain indexes.

Level 3 are the articles.

Level 4 ... There are no Level 4 pages.

I have Desc Tags on my Level 1 and 2 webpages. I cannot say the same
for the Level 3 articles.

Also, other websites refer to my site by the name of my site. I cannot
imagine any other site calling it 'Natural Health and Wellness.'
SEO-Gold is just a good choice of domains names. I wont change domain
names for anyone.
Yourdomainnameissimplyanonsensewordtotheenginesbec ausetheyseeitlikethis.
So you want to use the internal links to your home page to give the
engines some idea of what the site is about.

BB
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http://www.crystal-liaison.com/angel...-guardian.html
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/anri/black-king.html
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/art-i...ax-appeal.html


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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 01:34 PM



Big Bill wrote:

Quote:
Yourdomainnameissimplyanonsensewordtotheenginesbec ausetheyseeitlikethis.
So you want to use the internal links to your home page to give the
engines some idea of what the site is about.
It is called text parsing.

So from Google's point of view, because they parse text, there is not
much difference between natural-health.html and naturalhealth.html

Also, searching on naturalhealthperspective gives me an unique text
string to search the search engine indexes with. So, having a long
unique name is NOT all negative. The cup is half full from my point of
view.



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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 04:33 PM



On 1 Oct 2006 10:34:02 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Big Bill wrote:

Yourdomainnameissimplyanonsensewordtotheenginesbec ausetheyseeitlikethis.
So you want to use the internal links to your home page to give the
engines some idea of what the site is about.

It is called text parsing.

So from Google's point of view, because they parse text, there is not
much difference between natural-health.html and naturalhealth.html
Yes there is because they don't do that. natural_health and
naturalhealth are the same as each other but not the same as natural
health or natural-health.

Quote:
Also, searching on naturalhealthperspective gives me an unique text
string to search the search engine indexes with. So, having a long
unique name is NOT all negative. The cup is half full from my point of
view.
One can only admire your point of view.

BB
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johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com
 
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Default Re: To splashpage or not to splashpage? - 10-01-2006 , 05:39 PM




Big Bill wrote:
Quote:
On 1 Oct 2006 10:34:02 -0700, "johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Big Bill wrote:

Yourdomainnameissimplyanonsensewordtotheenginesbec ausetheyseeitlikethis.
So you want to use the internal links to your home page to give the
engines some idea of what the site is about.

It is called text parsing.

So from Google's point of view, because they parse text, there is not
much difference between natural-health.html and naturalhealth.html

Yes there is because they don't do that. natural_health and
naturalhealth are the same as each other but not the same as natural
health or natural-health.


Also, searching on naturalhealthperspective gives me an unique text
string to search the search engine indexes with. So, having a long
unique name is NOT all negative. The cup is half full from my point of
view.

One can only admire your point of view.
Some people have blue eyes. Some people have green eyes. But, how
many people have one blue and one green eye?

My website is: NaturalHealthPerspective.com. If Google cannot parse
that, who cares? Certainly not me. Because my My website is:
NaturalHealthPerspective.com.

Just thought that you might want to know.



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