To splashpage or not to splashpage?

#11

z wrote:

Quote:

johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com wrote:

z wrote:

Even better would be to leave the tableofcontents.html
page where it is and make a new front page with lots of text content and
links into different parts of the Web site.

Now we have a TEXT flashpage, a Doorway page, or a Gateway page. Let
us say with a maximum size of 10K, optimized for just one or two
keywords.

Are they a good idea?

Why not make a real home page with lots of information on it?

I have been all over the map trying to figure out what is best for my
home page. To make it tiny, big, or in the middle? To include a
mini-site map on it, or not? Studying the top 10 pages in my topic,
some are big while others are very tiny. Some hardly say anything at
all about the keyword, yet they are in the top 10.

My latest version is 10K. It zeroes in on my main keyword. And, has a
high keyword density for that keyword. It is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

The previous home page is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/home/
It covers several different keywords, and includes a mini-site map.
The main problem with it was that it was perhaps covering too big an
area? Nor, did it ever say anything all that significant.

The keyword is 'natural health.' When searching for the phrase, I am
already in the top 10. On searches for all words, I am in the top 20.
My site has not been recieving enough hits for the 'natural health'
keyword from the search engines.

Google has had the new page in their cache for only 2 days. Nothing
has changed regarding my placement at all. I am still in the same
position. So, I am presuming that it takes longer for a change in page
content to show up? I have noticed that a change in the page title
tag, immediately changes your placement.

The new version is cleaner than the old, and I somewhat like it. It
lists all sub-directory index web pages.

The idea about including a table of contents page sounds interesting.
I have been fooling with sitemaps. But, I really have never seen a
site that used a page that looked like a table of contents for a book.

#12

On 30 Sep 2006 11:57:46 -0700,
"johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

My latest version is 10K. It zeroes in on my main keyword. And, has a
high keyword density for that keyword. It is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

Hi
My first observations on that above page alone. [just had a quick
look]

The footer looks better in IE than it does Firefox. [Neater and more
readable]

I'd get rid of the scrolling message at the bottom. Doesn't work in FF
and just annoying in IE
Just my 2c + State Tax

plh
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#13

omnivore_ink (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

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Hi, guys

I publish a monthly science fiction web magazine called The Thunder
Child.

http://thethunderchild.com

The URL leads to a splash page, basically the "cover" of the zine, upon
which a person has to click to get into the site. I've got lots of
keywords in the metatag, and I've got a link to the sitemap on the same
page.

Clicking on the cover brings people to the Table of Contents, that
changes every month...but there's a nav bar with links to archive pages
for each article.

I am in search engines - but I rarely find myself on the first or even
second page of search hits.

And I've just been reading WebProNews that suggests that people not use
"Flash Page Portals" leading into the rest of the site.

So my question is this - should I get rid of my 'cover' and just have
the first page people see be the table of contents page?

Thanks for any help.

The idea of a splash page or cover is soething that works in the print
medium where the viewer is visually scanning racks of titles. it does
not work at all in the html/web medium where a search engine is scanning
WORS. Your index or home page shuld contain lots of words. Think of it
as a combination of catalogue description for the entire line of
magzines, a catalogue blurb for each issue, and a table of contents for
each issue. Include titles of stories, key words (science fiction,
scifi, SF, fantasy, thriller, horror, aliens, outer space, futuristic,
et al) in the description blocks, names of authors (fi=ull names), and
then make each key word, each title, each issue number, and each author
name a link to a rekevant page. In the case of authors, you want to make
a complete author index (all on one pag) with internal anchors, so that
the person landing there can also scroll. Each story title by that
author should then be a link to the story's appearance in the issue.
Lots of interlinking is the best scheme. Also, at the head of each
story, run a short copy block blurb about the story that contains the
author's name, again as a link to the authors' page. You can also, if
you wish to spend time at it and really do the job right, create and use
a standardized set of site-wide theme keywords in the home page, the
table of contents, and in the story blurbs. These theme keywords would
then link to theme-index pages such as stories about aliens (with alien
and aliens as link-words), stories about rocket ships (with rocket and
rocket ship as link-words), etc.

Good luck,

cat yronwode

#14

Paul wrote:

Quote:

On 30 Sep 2006 11:57:46 -0700,
"johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

My latest version is 10K. It zeroes in on my main keyword. And, has a
high keyword density for that keyword. It is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

The footer looks better in IE than it does Firefox. [Neater and more
readable]

I'd get rid of the scrolling message at the bottom. Doesn't work in FF
and just annoying in IE

Okay, how does it look now?

#15

johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:

z wrote:
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com wrote:

z wrote:

Even better would be to leave the tableofcontents.html
page where it is and make a new front page with lots of text content
and links into different parts of the Web site.

Now we have a TEXT flashpage, a Doorway page, or a Gateway page. Let
us say with a maximum size of 10K, optimized for just one or two
keywords.

Are they a good idea?

Why not make a real home page with lots of information on it?

I have been all over the map trying to figure out what is best for my
home page. To make it tiny, big, or in the middle? To include a
mini-site map on it, or not? Studying the top 10 pages in my topic,
some are big while others are very tiny. Some hardly say anything at
all about the keyword, yet they are in the top 10.

Sorry, for some reason I had thought you were the OP again. (Tired late
night post.) My tableofcontents.html comments were about the OP's site.

Quote:

My latest version is 10K. It zeroes in on my main keyword. And, has a
high keyword density for that keyword. It is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

You might want to redirect the "www" form of your domain name to the non-www
form.

Check the PR when looking at the non-www and the www versions of your home
page.

#16

David wrote:

Quote:

On 30 Sep 2006 10:45:37 -0700, "Turbo" <sandeep.iiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Bold , and even may be considered more important by a
search engine (not been shown conclusively either way), I think most
SEO's tend towards some of these elements (especially /)
help.

and are presentational. and are semantic.

Quote:

I've never heard of an SEO believing change the font colour helps with
SEO though. Since webpages can be white on black, black of white text
etc... I very much doubt search engine care about font colours used.

Bright yellow works particularly well for MSN optimization.

#17

On 30 Sep 2006 16:17:26 -0700,
"johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
<johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Paul wrote:
On 30 Sep 2006 11:57:46 -0700,
"johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com"
johngohde (AT) naturalhealthperspective (DOT) com> wrote:

My latest version is 10K. It zeroes in on my main keyword. And, has a
high keyword density for that keyword. It is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

The footer looks better in IE than it does Firefox. [Neater and more
readable]

I'd get rid of the scrolling message at the bottom. Doesn't work in FF
and just annoying in IE

Okay, how does it look now?

Looks better.

Not too sure about having this though : This web page was modified on
September 30, 2006. - Bit pointless and nobody really cares. Easily
faked.

And if "Please read INFO and FAQ before using this site." is so
important, then why is it at the very bottom ?

I'd use better alt attributes as well.

plh
Paul

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#18

"catherine yronwode" <cat (AT) luckymojo (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet
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omnivore_ink (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

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Quote:

So my question is this - should I get rid of my 'cover' and just have
the first page people see be the table of contents page?

Thanks for any help.

The idea of a splash page or cover is soething that works in the print
medium where the viewer is visually scanning racks of titles. it does
not work at all in the html/web medium where a search engine is scanning
WORS. Your index or home page shuld contain lots of words.
This works on websites which are basically in one language

for example it could work on www.om-italien.eu
But what about
a site like this
which is in several languages
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
?

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#19

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:36:54 -0400, z <news01.web (AT) mailnull (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

David wrote:

On 30 Sep 2006 10:45:37 -0700, "Turbo" <sandeep.iiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Bold , and even may be considered more important by a
search engine (not been shown conclusively either way), I think most
SEO's tend towards some of these elements (especially /)
help.

b> and are presentational. and are semantic.

I know, do you think that makes a difference to what most SEO's
believe (not talking proof/facts here)? I'll add I don't know if any
of the above confer a boost in any search engine because my tests are
inconclusive. Which suggests if there is an SEO benefit it's small.

Quote:

I've never heard of an SEO believing change the font colour helps with
SEO though. Since webpages can be white on black, black of white text
etc... I very much doubt search engine care about font colours used.

Bright yellow works particularly well for MSN optimization.

Did you miss a smiley on the above?

David
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#20

Paul wrote:

Quote:

Okay, how does it look now?

Looks better.

Not too sure about having this though : This web page was modified on
September 30, 2006. - Bit pointless and nobody really cares. Easily
faked.

And if "Please read INFO and FAQ before using this site." is so
important, then why is it at the very bottom ?

These items are required by the Swiss organization that accredits my
health website. The bottom of the page is the traditional place to
locate these types of notices. If you want to check a site's privacy
policy, the bottom of the page is the place to look for this type of
information. My privacy policy is included in the Info page.