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One of these is supposed to make code that's not too bad, does anyone
have any idea which version is the decent one please?

BB

Big Bill schreef:

One of these is supposed to make code that's not too bad, does anyone
have any idea which version is the decent one please?

I have no idea from which version the *option* is integrated to spitout
decent code.

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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:26:22 +0100, tonnie <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl>
wrote:

Big Bill schreef:
One of these is supposed to make code that's not too bad, does anyone
have any idea which version is the decent one please?

I have no idea from which version the *option* is integrated to spitout
decent code.

More on frontpage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_FrontPage

Ah, I see it's being phased out by Msoft anyway. Phew!

BB

"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:26:22 +0100, tonnie <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl
wrote:

Big Bill schreef:
One of these is supposed to make code that's not too bad, does anyone
have any idea which version is the decent one please?

I have no idea from which version the *option* is integrated to spitout
decent code.

More on frontpage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_FrontPage

Ah, I see it's being phased out by Msoft anyway. Phew.

What is your need for this information Bill, planning on buying FP?:-) OK, I
will help you out since I use FP.:-)

FP can spit out decent code when used properly. When the code is messed up
it is usually the user's fault. There is just one problem that can not be
fixed and that is when using the FP to create the table borders it will make
a double word meta "Microsoft Border" and of course it has to be a single
token to be error free. To me that is not a big deal, for the convenience
that using the table borders will give.

I also have MS Expression Beta. It seems OK, haven't had much time to play
with it as I am pretty busy. It is made to look more like Dreamweaver and
Namo Editor. I would say that MS Expression is easier to learn and use over
Dreamweaver or Namo. Easiest to use WYSIWYG editor for newbies I think would
be CorelDrawX3 or PrintShop by Broderbund. Cheapest editor would be
PrintShop or Namo, but Namo being the best buy as it has a FTP with it.

Hope this information helps you on your new purchase.:-)

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:02:52 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"
<Please-use-our-contact-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:26:22 +0100, tonnie <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl
wrote:

Big Bill schreef:
One of these is supposed to make code that's not too bad, does anyone
have any idea which version is the decent one please?

I have no idea from which version the *option* is integrated to spitout
decent code.

More on frontpage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_FrontPage

Ah, I see it's being phased out by Msoft anyway. Phew.

What is your need for this information Bill, planning on buying FP?:-) OK, I
will help you out since I use FP.:-)

I looked at Wiki about it actually, where I learn it's to be
discontinued.

FP can spit out decent code when used properly. When the code is messed up
it is usually the user's fault. There is just one problem that can not be
fixed and that is when using the FP to create the table borders it will make
a double word meta "Microsoft Border" and of course it has to be a single
token to be error free. To me that is not a big deal, for the convenience
that using the table borders will give.

Which version do you have though? 2003 on seems to be ok, not that
I've judged it personally, I might think different.

I also have MS Expression Beta. It seems OK, haven't had much time to play
with it as I am pretty busy.

Is this the thing they are going to replace it with? I shudder....

It is made to look more like Dreamweaver and
Namo Editor.

There's a vote of confidence in its own products!

I would say that MS Expression is easier to learn and use over
Dreamweaver or Namo. Easiest to use WYSIWYG editor for newbies I think would
be CorelDrawX3 or PrintShop by Broderbund. Cheapest editor would be
PrintShop or Namo, but Namo being the best buy as it has a FTP with it.

Hope this information helps you on your new purchase.:-)

Not really!

BB

"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:02:52 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"
Please-use-our-contact-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
newsoa9m2p7flnsthh907eblubkg63h301trk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
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Ah, I see it's being phased out by Msoft anyway. Phew.

What is your need for this information Bill, planning on buying FP?:-) OK,
I
will help you out since I use FP.:-)

I looked at Wiki about it actually, where I learn it's to be
discontinued.

Yes, but you started this thread to get information about it right?

FP can spit out decent code when used properly. When the code is messed up
it is usually the user's fault. There is just one problem that can not be
fixed and that is when using the FP to create the table borders it will
make
a double word meta "Microsoft Border" and of course it has to be a single
token to be error free. To me that is not a big deal, for the convenience
that using the table borders will give.

Which version do you have though?

2002

2003 on seems to be ok, not that
I've judged it personally, I might think different.

This is where you seem to make a mistake in your writing as it isn't making
sense.:-) If you judge it you would think different?? Or if you try it,
what??

I also have MS Expression Beta. It seems OK, haven't had much time to play
with it as I am pretty busy.

Is this the thing they are going to replace it with? I shudder....

Why shudder? It is very good as far as making designs and it has a more
integrated CSS control.

It is made to look more like Dreamweaver and
Namo Editor.

There's a vote of confidence in its own products!

Really? I think they have listened to people's comments and integrated more
control with CSS in the same working window. Although it helps to know some
HTML with any website building. I use both , writing HTML by hand and the
editor. I can see what the page will look like before loading it up. :-)
This helps me with colors and hues to change.

I would say that MS Expression is easier to learn and use over
Dreamweaver or Namo. Easiest to use WYSIWYG editor for newbies I think
would
be CorelDrawX3 or PrintShop by Broderbund. Cheapest editor would be
PrintShop or Namo, but Namo being the best buy as it has a FTP with it.

Hope this information helps you on your new purchase.:-)

Not really!

Just trying to help. Still why ask about MSFP to begin with if you don't
like it or have in the past put it down? :-)

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:50:46 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions"
<Please-use-our-contact-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote:

I looked at Wiki about it actually, where I learn it's to be
discontinued.

ah, well, if it was in Wiki, then it must be true.

Anyone looking at "thanksgiving" or "turkey day" on wiki yesterday
would have seen "this holiday sux" - that was it, nothing else.

I just checked again, and it is back to "normal".

plh
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:16:58 +0100, Paul B
<customerservices (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote:

I looked at Wiki about it actually, where I learn it's to be
discontinued.

ah, well, if it was in Wiki, then it must be true.

No, but it is still a good place to check many things. Not worse than most
of the net is

Anyone looking at "thanksgiving" or "turkey day" on wiki yesterday
would have seen "this holiday sux" - that was it, nothing else.

I just checked again, and it is back to "normal".

Happens now and then, but you can always take a look at the last version
before the page was vandalized. You may even revert the page to the
previous version by yourself

And I have happened to check Thanksgiving page yesterday (looking for the
reason why the traffic has gone down by 25%) - and it was OK.

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:56:59 +0100, Borek
<m.borkowski (AT) delete (DOT) chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:16:58 +0100, Paul B
customerservices (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote:

I looked at Wiki about it actually, where I learn it's to be
discontinued.

ah, well, if it was in Wiki, then it must be true.

No, but it is still a good place to check many things. Not worse than most
of the net is

~cough~

Anyone looking at "thanksgiving" or "turkey day" on wiki yesterday
would have seen "this holiday sux" - that was it, nothing else.

I just checked again, and it is back to "normal".

Happens now and then, but you can always take a look at the last version
before the page was vandalized. You may even revert the page to the
previous version by yourself

And I have happened to check Thanksgiving page yesterday (looking for the
reason why the traffic has gone down by 25%) - and it was OK.

What time did you look ? I was looking mid/late evening GMT.
It did give me a chuckle.

plh
Paul

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:56:49 +0100, Paul B
<customerservices (AT) houstoncrafts (DOT) com> wrote:

Anyone looking at "thanksgiving" or "turkey day" on wiki yesterday
would have seen "this holiday sux" - that was it, nothing else.

I just checked again, and it is back to "normal".

Happens now and then, but you can always take a look at the last version
before the page was vandalized. You may even revert the page to the
previous version by yourself

And I have happened to check Thanksgiving page yesterday (looking for
the
reason why the traffic has gone down by 25%) - and it was OK.

What time did you look ? I was looking mid/late evening GMT.
It did give me a chuckle.

Around midnight probably.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=89724053

It was online about three minutes

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...action=history

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