Site with PR=0 above mine with PR=6

#1

I'm trying to make sense of the fact that when I type "Rail jobs" into
Google a site with PR=0 comes above my site which for more than 2 years
has had a PR=6.

Additionally, how does a site that has only 2 indexed pages and 0 links
get listed above a site with 1,150 indexed pages and 377 links? You
have to admit this looks decidedly fishy and I could not get an answer
from Google.

#2

gareth (AT) constructionjobsearch (DOT) co.uk napisal(a), iz :

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I'm trying to make sense of the fact that when I type "Rail jobs" into
Google a site with PR=0 comes above my site which for more than 2 years
has had a PR=6.

Possition in google=50%*good(!) back links+40%*good(!) content+
10%*other

*links not from directories, links exchange systems and other spam,
back links from sites similar to us
** not spam content, good planned contend (h1,h2,a,title,alt, etc)

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#3

<gareth (AT) constructionjobsearch (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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I'm trying to make sense of the fact that when I type "Rail jobs" into
Google a site with PR=0 comes above my site which for more than 2 years
has had a PR=6.
Additionally, how does a site that has only 2 indexed pages and 0 links
get listed above a site with 1,150 indexed pages and 377 links? You
have to admit this looks decidedly fishy and I could not get an answer
from Google.

I'm not seeing that. But there's at least two common possibilities.

1. It's a new site; much too recent to have a TBPR, but old enough to have a
few good links. Plus it's probably zooming in and out, up and down, as new
sites so often do. Be patient!

2. It's a new folder on an existing site (eg
wellestablishedjobsite.com/newrailsection/); again, the section is brand
new, so has no VISIBLE gpr - but benefits from the strength of it's parent.

With more info, there's other possibilities too.
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#4

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:09:18 +0200, Dariusz <rafarian (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

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gareth (AT) constructionjobsearch (DOT) co.uk napisal(a), iz :
I'm trying to make sense of the fact that when I type "Rail jobs" into
Google a site with PR=0 comes above my site which for more than 2 years
has had a PR=6.

Possition in google=50%*good(!) back links+40%*good(!) content+
10%*other

*links not from directories,

Many links from directories are worth a great deal.

BB

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#5

On 16 Oct 2006 02:24:15 -0700, "gareth (AT) constructionjobsearch (DOT) co.uk"
<gareth (AT) constructionjobsearch (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

I'm trying to make sense of the fact that when I type "Rail jobs" into
Google a site with PR=0 comes above my site which for more than 2 years
has had a PR=6.

PR doesn't mean much.

Quote:

Additionally, how does a site that has only 2 indexed pages and 0 links
get listed above a site with 1,150 indexed pages and 377 links?

It probably has loads more links than Google are admitting to.

These are possibilities, mind, it could just be a big glitch, not
unheard of in the land of search. Have you checked it at a DC checker?

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#6

Most are not worth the electrons they are printed on

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"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:09:18 +0200, Dariusz <rafarian (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

Many links from directories are worth a great deal.

#7

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:41:41 GMT, "Windsun" <wind-sun (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>
wrote:

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Most are not worth the electrons they are printed on

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:09:18 +0200, Dariusz <rafarian (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

Many links from directories are worth a great deal.

But some are.

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#8

Yes I see what you are saying however this is the site that that is now
positioned 3 in the lists

http://www.therailgroup.com/railjobsonline.html

which links through to these sites:

http://www.natrailawards.co.uk/

http://www.greatmagazines.co.uk/stor...re.asp?sid=397

Which have a PR of 3 and 4 respectively - and they go back to this site
http://www.greatmagazines.co.uk which has a PR=0.

My site is www.railjobsearch.com which has a landing page (and has had
for well over 2 years) with a PR=6 and pages behind that with PR=6 and
5.

Andrew Heenan wrote:

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gareth (AT) constructionjobsearch (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1160990655.674366.12980 (AT) f16g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I'm trying to make sense of the fact that when I type "Rail jobs" into
Google a site with PR=0 comes above my site which for more than 2 years
has had a PR=6.
Additionally, how does a site that has only 2 indexed pages and 0 links
get listed above a site with 1,150 indexed pages and 377 links? You
have to admit this looks decidedly fishy and I could not get an answer
from Google.

I'm not seeing that. But there's at least two common possibilities.

1. It's a new site; much too recent to have a TBPR, but old enough to have a
few good links. Plus it's probably zooming in and out, up and down, as new
sites so often do. Be patient!

2. It's a new folder on an existing site (eg
wellestablishedjobsite.com/newrailsection/); again, the section is brand
new, so has no VISIBLE gpr - but benefits from the strength of it's parent.

With more info, there's other possibilities too.
--

Andrew
Editor
http://www.seo2seo.com/

#9

BB

I checked on other DCs and the results were that we came 5th and they
came 4th across all of them.

I don't think it is a linking thing either as on Yahoo they have 124
links and MSN they have 20. We have 4010 and 2287 respectively.

Quote:

These are possibilities, mind, it could just be a big glitch, not
unheard of in the land of search. Have you checked it at a DC checker?

BB
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#10

<gareth (AT) constructionjobsearch (DOT) co.uk> wrote ...

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Yes I see what you are saying however this is the site that that is now
positioned 3 in the lists
http://www.therailgroup.com/railjobsonline.html
which links through to these sites:
http://www.natrailawards.co.uk/
http://www.greatmagazines.co.uk/stor...re.asp?sid=397
Which have a PR of 3 and 4 respectively - and they go back to this site
http://www.greatmagazines.co.uk which has a PR=0.
My site is www.railjobsearch.com which has a landing page (and has had
for well over 2 years) with a PR=6 and pages behind that with PR=6 and
5.

1. The GPR you see is usually 3-4 months out of date; plus google's searches
for links are deliberately unreliable, so *never* take GPR that seriously.

2. All of those sites are part of emap, a major publishing company. They
were early on the web, and know what they are doing (usually). And they have
many web sites. They have recently reorganised their web presence around
'rail'; plus they may well have connections with a third-party classified
operation. They Do Deals.

3. Plus there may well be shenanigans, but they won't be easy to find ;o

4. Plus if it's a new site - which it could be - its position may be
temporary.
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I used to edit a web site for emap (several years ago); once they make their
minds up (a slow process) they spend what need to be spent to do well; if it
doesn't do as expected, they drop it like a stone, regardless of the
investment.

not an easy company to work for ;o)