Site dropped to PR4

Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !
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__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 12:05 \__

Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !

The number of referrals I get (related to rank) was axed by about a half last
week. It was an overnight change which had no clear justification as I had
changed nothing. Number of indexed pages has not changed either. Has
*yours*? Also, could this somehow be related to your recent Google Cache
woe? If the bar was greyed out, that would be another scenario altogether. I
still see FirstPeople < http://www.firstpeople.us/ > at PR5, so I assume
you're alluding to a front page of another site.

HTH (Hesitant To Hallucinate)

Roy

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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:55:19 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 12:05 \__

Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !

Hi Roy

The number of referrals I get (related to rank) was axed by about a half last
week. It was an overnight change which had no clear justification as I had
changed nothing.

I've no idea of mine as I never check. Or know how to.
As it's none commercial, i've never worried about such things,

Number of indexed pages has not changed either.
Has *yours*?

I have not checked that for a long time, so I cannot give any info on
that.

I have added a few more pages to the site, but nothing serious.

Also, could this somehow be related to your recent Google Cache
woe?

Home page last cached 25 Mar 2006 - used to be every day.

If the bar was greyed out, that would be another scenario altogether.

Don't I know it

I still see FirstPeople < http://www.firstpeople.us/ > at PR5, so I assume
you're alluding to a front page of another site.

You were correct, I was referring to the First People site. I looked
again and still showing PR4 (Which is was prior to the last PR
update)

HTH (Hesitant To Hallucinate)

Roy

plh
Paul

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Turquoise Necklace http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item2.html
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I have gone from a 3 to a 4 today.

Badass.


"Paul B" <lamewolf2004 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !
--
Real Bear Claw Necklace
http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item1.html
Turquoise Necklace
http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item2.html
Necklace Purse
http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item3.html

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__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 13:04 \__

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:55:19 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 12:05 \__

Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !

Hi Roy

The number of referrals I get (related to rank) was axed by about a half
last week. It was an overnight change which had no clear justification as I
had changed nothing.

I've no idea of mine as I never check. Or know how to.
As it's none commercial, i've never worried about such things,

This can be helpful, trust me. AWstats has a rudimentary mechanism for
per-search engines breakdown to and a monthly aggreagtion of numbers, which
you can view every morning/evening/whatever. Visitors (0.6, Dmitri
recommended it) gives a daily Zeitgest of Google referrals, which are rather
important to me as they account for 20% of all traffic. Again, it's
non-commercial, but if the referrals are there (and tracking of the numbers
can flag mistakes or -- contrariwise -- doors to success), why not use it?

Number of indexed pages has not changed either.
Has *yours*?

I have not checked that for a long time, so I cannot give any info on
that.

I have added a few more pages to the site, but nothing serious.

There is another factor which is how many pages were indexed as opposed to
"made available", i.e. uploaded. The more pages you have, the lower the
PageRank, although it is dependent on front page structure (off- and on-site
links). Doorway-like front page can pull a lot of 'energy'.

Example:

Also, could this somehow be related to your recent Google Cache
woe?

Home page last cached 25 Mar 2006 - used to be every day.

If the bar was greyed out, that would be another scenario altogether.

Don't I know it

I still see FirstPeople < http://www.firstpeople.us/ > at PR5, so I assume
you're alluding to a front page of another site.

You were correct, I was referring to the First People site. I looked
again and still showing PR4 (Which is was prior to the last PR
update)

HTH (Hesitant To Hallucinate)

Roy

plh
Paul

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__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 13:04 \__

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:55:19 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 12:05 \__

Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !

Hi Roy

The number of referrals I get (related to rank) was axed by about a half
last week. It was an overnight change which had no clear justification as I
had changed nothing.

I've no idea of mine as I never check. Or know how to.
As it's none commercial, i've never worried about such things,

This can be helpful, trust me. AWStats has a rudimentary mechanism for
per-search engines breakdown to and a monthly aggregation of numbers, which
you can view every morning/evening/whatever. Visitors (0.6, Dmitri
recommended it) gives a daily Zeitgeist of Google referrals, which are rather
important to me as they account for 20% of all traffic. Again, it's
non-commercial, but if the referrals are there (and tracking of the numbers
can flag mistakes or -- contrariwise -- doors to success), why not use it?

Number of indexed pages has not changed either.
Has *yours*?

I have not checked that for a long time, so I cannot give any info on
that.

I have added a few more pages to the site, but nothing serious.

There is another factor which is how many pages were indexed as opposed to
"made available", i.e. uploaded. The more pages you have, the lower the
PageRank, although it is dependent on front page structure (off- and on-site
links). Doorway-like front page can pull a lot of 'energy'.

Example (oops! wrong keys pressed earlier):

http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/aflavell.html (from the HTML newsgroups)

PageRank is 8, only 47 inbound links.

Also, could this somehow be related to your recent Google Cache
woe?

Home page last cached 25 Mar 2006 - used to be every day.

If the bar was greyed out, that would be another scenario altogether.

Don't I know it

I still see FirstPeople < http://www.firstpeople.us/ > at PR5, so I assume
you're alluding to a front page of another site.

You were correct, I was referring to the First People site. I looked
again and still showing PR4 (Which is was prior to the last PR
update)

HTH (Hesitant To Hallucinate)

Roy

plh
Paul

It's PR5 over here, probably owing to datacentres. Try MCDar and see what
different datacentres report as the PageRank.

Best wishes,

Roy


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__/ [ Badass Scotsman ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 13:06 \__

"Paul B" <lamewolf2004 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
newsubv221qcembpoks534nrq1r2j5ovo0i2v (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !
--
Real Bear Claw Necklace

http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item1.html
Turquoise Necklace

http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item2.html
Necklace Purse

http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item3.html

I have gone from a 3 to a 4 today.

Badass.

There's some stuff going on over here, as well. Nothing like a full-scale
PageRank update, but there are odd changes. This appears to be something
more global...

MCDar apepar to be overloaded with requests (it is slow), which may be yet
another indication the people are discovering changes.

Best wishes,

Roy

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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:10:32 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 13:04 \__

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:55:19 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 12:05 \__

Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !

Hi Roy

The number of referrals I get (related to rank) was axed by about a half
last week. It was an overnight change which had no clear justification as I
had changed nothing.

I've no idea of mine as I never check. Or know how to.
As it's none commercial, i've never worried about such things,

This can be helpful, trust me. AWstats has a rudimentary mechanism for
per-search engines breakdown to and a monthly aggreagtion of numbers, which
you can view every morning/evening/whatever. Visitors (0.6, Dmitri
recommended it) gives a daily Zeitgest of Google referrals, which are rather
important to me as they account for 20% of all traffic. Again, it's
non-commercial, but if the referrals are there (and tracking of the numbers
can flag mistakes or -- contrariwise -- doors to success), why not use it?

I use smarterstats. Sorry, I was confusing it with something else -
esp when you said it was related to ranking.

Most of my traffic comes from google.

Number of indexed pages has not changed either.
Has *yours*?

I have not checked that for a long time, so I cannot give any info on
that.

I have added a few more pages to the site, but nothing serious.

There is another factor which is how many pages were indexed as opposed to
"made available", i.e. uploaded. The more pages you have, the lower the
PageRank, although it is dependent on front page structure (off- and on-site
links). Doorway-like front page can pull a lot of 'energy'.

Yes, but adding a few deeper pages to a site that is already 4800+
isn't going to do much - if anything.
plh
paul
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Real Bear Claw Necklace http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item1.html
Turquoise Necklace http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item2.html
Necklace Purse http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item3.html

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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:13:47 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Paul B ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 13:04 \__

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:55:19 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

<snip>

It's PR5 over here, probably owing to datacentres. Try MCDar and see what
different datacentres report as the PageRank.

I tried McDAr, but wasn't showing PR at all

Best wishes,

Roy

plh
Paul
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Real Bear Claw Necklace http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item1.html
Turquoise Necklace http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item2.html
Necklace Purse http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item3.html

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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:20:58 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

__/ [ Badass Scotsman ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 13:06 \__

"Paul B" <lamewolf2004 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
newsubv221qcembpoks534nrq1r2j5ovo0i2v (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
Anyone else notice their PR playing around ?
Site was a PR5, and today PR4 umph !
--
Real Bear Claw Necklace

http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item1.html
Turquoise Necklace

http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item2.html
Necklace Purse

http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item3.html

I have gone from a 3 to a 4 today.

Badass.

There's some stuff going on over here, as well. Nothing like a full-scale
PageRank update, but there are odd changes. This appears to be something
more global...

MCDar apepar to be overloaded with requests (it is slow), which may be yet
another indication the people are discovering changes.

Best wishes,

Roy

The two sites that I run, before the last update were both PR4.
First People moved up to PR5.

Today, both are showing PR4 again (at my end)

So, *may be* they are reverting back as there may have been other
problems.

As google had to sell more shares the other day, may be they had to
sell some of the PR from sites

plh
paul
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Real Bear Claw Necklace http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item1.html
Turquoise Necklace http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item2.html
Necklace Purse http://www.firstpeople.us/native-ame...her/item3.html

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